New player questions

[mindflash]

Hello, people. I just wanted to ask some questions that I could not find answers for in the forums or the Wiki.

1) What is the "right" way to teleport back to the Soul Menhir? I have been suiciding every time but I was wondering if there is a quicker method.

2) How exactly do health items work? They just say how much they will heal you for, but it seems they all have a "heal over time" effect. I would like to understand if all health items do work like this, and how many seconds do they take to add that much health. It seems to add up to the natural HP regen of the character.

3) What are the best cost effective health items in the game right now? I am buying green apples but I wish to upgrade, I am almost level 40 by now.

4) Are there world maps I can check?

5) What is the natural progression to the Farmer's Scythe for an all-around warrior? I am going for the hybrid "a bit of every stat besides INT" build. I checked the Bone Dagger and Small Sword quests and they are from being possible for me yet.

[o11c]

1) What is the "right" way to teleport back to the Soul Menhir? I have been suiciding every time but I was wondering if there is a quicker method.

Suicide is the only answer, though in theory a script could also do it.

2) How exactly do health items work? They just say how much they will heal you for, but it seems they all have a "heal over time" effect. I would like to understand if all health items do work like this, and how many seconds do they take to add that much health. It seems to add up to the natural HP regen of the character.

The rate and total amount of healing depends on your VIT; the given amount is the minimum total.
Healing items work even when natural healing is suppressed, and at a much higher rate if you have any VIT.

3) What are the best cost effective health items in the game right now? I am buying green apples but I wish to upgrade, I am almost level 40 by now.

It depends on your build, but I usually use Red Apples and Orange Cupcakes because they're free by-products of essential grinding.

4) Are there world maps I can check?

Sort-of. We don't make an effort to maintain them.

5) What is the natural progression to the Farmer's Scythe for an all-around warrior? I am going for the hybrid "a bit of every stat besides INT" build. I checked the Bone Dagger and Small Sword quests and they are from being possible for me yet.

Once you get to level 40, make sure you've got the Forest Bow, put EVERYTHING in DEX, and try not to die in the graveyard.
After DEX reaches 100 (needs a bonus item), increase AGI and VIT at the same rate until 20 or 30, afterwards prefer AGI.

Get Mallard's Eye as soon as possible, only switch to Speed when you have at least 80 AGI.

[Piateluca]

1. Suicide is the best way, the other way is to teleport with the Hitchikers Towel, but since the quest is unavailable at this time, is an expensive item.

http://wiki.themanaworld.org/index.php/ ... Hitchhiker

2. Not sure with normal items, at least with lifestones, all depends on how much magic you have, I think this is an useless answer XD .

3. Best way, killing red slimes to get read apples. Second best way, the white slimes in the snow map Nivalis, to get water.

4. Nivalis, and in Hurns the Graveyard if you haven't visited it yet.

5. *calls Nard for answer*

[mindflash]

The rate and total amount of healing depends on your VIT; the given amount is the minimum total.
Healing items work even when natural healing is suppressed, and at a much higher rate if you have any VIT.

But will every health item will take the same amount of seconds to heal or are there faster items? Let's say I have two different items that will heal 50 HP (base), is it possible that one item will work faster than the other?

Once you get to level 40, make sure you've got the Forest Bow, put EVERYTHING in DEX, and try not to die in the graveyard.
After DEX reaches 100 (needs a bonus item), increase AGI and VIT at the same rate until 20 or 30, afterwards prefer AGI.
Get Mallard's Eye as soon as possible, only switch to Speed when you have at least 80 AGI.

Are you telling me that I should go archer instead of hybrid warrior? Ain't there any other possible build that won't be lacking much? As I said, I was aiming at a build I saw in this forum that said you could spread your points in every stat besides INT. Right now I got 30 STR, 50 AGI, 20 VIT, 30 DEX. I am still killing Cave Snakes for the lamps quest. I can survive them very well but they won't die very fast.

[o11c]

The rate and total amount of healing depends on your VIT; the given amount is the minimum total.
Healing items work even when natural healing is suppressed, and at a much higher rate if you have any VIT.

But will every health item will take the same amount of seconds to heal or are there faster items? Let's say I have two different items that will heal 50 HP (base), is it possible that one item will work faster than the other?

Ah, right - items with higher total HP do heal faster. It goes in chunks - 50 and 100 are cutoffs, IIRC. There is no difference between items of the same HP.

But if you're getting injured at all, either the server is really laggy or you're not hitting the move keys fast enough.

Once you get to level 40, make sure you've got the Forest Bow, put EVERYTHING in DEX, and try not to die in the graveyard.
After DEX reaches 100 (needs a bonus item), increase AGI and VIT at the same rate until 20 or 30, afterwards prefer AGI.
Get Mallard's Eye as soon as possible, only switch to Speed when you have at least 80 AGI.

Are you telling me that I should go archer instead of hybrid warrior? Ain't there any other possible build that won't be lacking much? As I said, I was aiming at a build I saw in this forum that said you could spread your points in every stat besides INT. Right now I got 30 STR, 50 AGI, 20 VIT, 30 DEX. I am still killing Cave Snakes for the lamps quest. I can survive them very well but they won't die very fast.

It can be worth being a warrior at high levels, but before then, it is impossible to have enough VIT to survive *and* enough STR/AGI to do damage. Especially if you don't have a full set of armor yet.

[SudoPlatypus]

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[mindflash]

So, basically the game is broken right now, and there is only one viable class until end-game?

[SudoPlatypus]

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[Frost]

2) How exactly do health items work?

Healing items repair your damage. You're correct that items which heal more total damage also heal more rapidly. I guess one could time how long the healing duration is; I have not done so.

3) What are the best cost effective health items in the game right now? I am buying green apples but I wish to upgrade, I am almost level 40 by now.

On characters with low total hitpoints, I eat red apples because I get them anyway when I kill red slimes for items to sell for money. On characters with higher total hitpoints, I drink water. Water heals as well as beer but is slightly cheaper because you can refill empty bottles at the pump.

5) What is the natural progression to the Farmer's Scythe for an all-around warrior? I am going for the hybrid "a bit of every stat besides INT" build. I checked the Bone Dagger and Small Sword quests and they are from being possible for me yet.

You can probably find a high-level character to run in and distract the monsters near the short sword chest for you. Likewise, it's difficult to gather all the items for the Bone Knife, but you can ask others to help you. Don't forget to look on ManaMarket.


A word about game balance:
All-around warrior is less powerful in a given situation than a character who is specialized. This doesn't mean it's a bad style, just that you can expect that others who specialize will kill more rapidly, get more drops, and of course reach higher levels more quickly than you.

The answers I've seen so far seem to be about how to specialize for the fastest level advancement and/or money. Personally, I find different playing styles suit different moods, and I have enough high-level characters that pure numbers have become less interesting. To be specific, I find archer to be the fastest-paced playing style in the game (lots of button mashing), warrior to be the most consistent (and the most conducive to conversation), and mage to be the most flexible and complex (and expensive).

That said, archers are almost always the highest damage-per-second characters in the game, and thus your fastest ticket to the next level or whatever. From the preceding posts, one might get the impression that game dynamics are so broken that you shouldn't bother with anything else. The fact that other play styles are popular would seem to indicate this view is not universally shared.

[Nard]

Hello, people. I just wanted to ask some questions that I could not find answers for in the forums or the Wiki.

1) What is the "right" way to teleport back to the Soul Menhir? I have been suiciding every time but I was wondering if there is a quicker method.

2) How exactly do health items work? They just say how much they will heal you for, but it seems they all have a "heal over time" effect. I would like to understand if all health items do work like this, and how many seconds do they take to add that much health. It seems to add up to the natural HP regen of the character.

3) What are the best cost effective health items in the game right now? I am buying green apples but I wish to upgrade, I am almost level 40 by now.

4) Are there world maps I can check?

5) What is the natural progression to the Farmer's Scythe for an all-around warrior? I am going for the hybrid "a bit of every stat besides INT" build. I checked the Bone Dagger and Small Sword quests and they are from being possible for me yet.

3. see upper answers.
4. World Map: I am working on building them again to include all actual maps. I'll put then in Wiki when I can show a clean work
5. all-around warrior: Warrior is not the fastest way to progress as there is still a unbalance between them and archers in lower levels. It is possible though and if you have fun with it it is the good way to play: In that case try to keep close to an equally distributed status (except intelligence which has to be kept at 1). Luck, strength and vitality are the most important to warriors: try to keep luck = level. 35 dexterity is enough for a high level warrior, I raised my first one up to 45 dexterity to be able to deal with spiders and snakes.
   You can get as soon as you get level 35 the focusing skill but do not focus yet, wait for level 50 to get the raging skill or the poison resist skill which some players prefer as raging (or speed) get their maximum efficiency at high levels (90+). (I tried it it: raging allows better progression than speed).
   Do the quests, including magic quest because some of them are fun, and because they bring you a lot of experience points or interesting items. (you can train magic even with int=1)
   Speak with other players, it is more than half of game's interest. Use Wiki if you get stuck, but avoid using it as a spoiler; it is much more fun for you and other players to get help. It is your first char you are intelligent enough if you understand well english to read NPC's texts, some of them include really fun stories, though sometimes long.
   
   Last but not the least: Be patient! Maybe you will find it fun to make a second account and with another char with different status. It breaks grinding monotony. Whatever you have fun with is the best way to play. You will soon even notice that for some players this game is as a social network or a good way to find an audience to troll

Nard
edit: typo

[tux9th]

You can get as soon as you get level 35 the focusing skill but do not focus yet, wait for level 50 to get the raging skill or the poison resist skill which some players prefer as raging (or speed) get their maximum efficiency at high levels (90+). (I tried it it: raging allows better progression than speed).

http://wiki.themanaworld.org/index.php/Raging_Skill
Raging is for level 40. I think the earlier you finish it the easier it is as it gets harder the higher your level is.

greets

[mindflash]

I am confused now, what is a good warrior build that won't be much worse than an archer? I really don't mind if they are just a bit worse, but I do mind if archers can get like double xp per hour compared to warriors. I guess I should change to archer and change back to warrior when I am high level, if I can find a good build with the help of the fellow players.

And by the way, should I buy regular arrows or iron arrows? Just wondering if I can afford iron arrows with the loot I get from levelling, don't want to run out of cash.

Thank you very much for all the info provided.

[Piateluca]

but I do mind if archers can get like double xp per hour compared to warriors.

Ohh and you haven't seen the ones with potions, taking like 80% of your exp and not giving a crap

The only way I can avoid this is using a mage-tank (second client) and "hiding" in a place when the archers die easily .

[Nard]

I am confused now, what is a good warrior build that won't be much worse than an archer? I really don't mind if they are just a bit worse, but I do mind if archers can get like double xp per hour compared to warriors. I guess I should change to archer and change back to warrior when I am high level, if I can find a good build with the help of the fellow players.

And by the way, should I buy regular arrows or iron arrows? Just wondering if I can afford iron arrows with the loot I get from levelling, don't want to run out of cash.

Thank you very much for all the info provided.

I don't like much to use the change status ability, thus I tried to avoid it as much as possible, just to correct errors and misunderstandings. (my main char is now 98 with only 1 restat., one skill missing , warriors had 2 or 3) Maybe it has been slower but I preferred to play that way.
You guess right, but if you have more fun being a warrior and can deal with a bit frustration, play the warrior. It took me a year to reach the 90s (first char).

arrows: regular arrows definitely, Iron maybe later.

[Freeyorp101]

The rate and total amount of healing depends on your VIT; the given amount is the minimum total.
Healing items work even when natural healing is suppressed, and at a much higher rate if you have any VIT.

But will every health item will take the same amount of seconds to heal or are there faster items? Let's say I have two different items that will heal 50 HP (base), is it possible that one item will work faster than the other?

Ah, right - items with higher total HP do heal faster. It goes in chunks - 50 and 100 are cutoffs, IIRC. There is no difference between items of the same HP.

There are thresholds at 20, 50, 100, 250, and 500. tickdelays (not internal ticks, but special purpose heal ticks - invoked every 0.5s whenever health recovery is queued up) decrease by one at each threshold from 5 down to 0.

As such, higher tier healing items will heal you significantly faster.


---Freeyorp