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#156449 by Snoopy81
Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:27 am
Hello all
I recently discovered this game, and randomly picked up TMW server because magic was supposed to be implemented and not on Evol.
After few weeks, I still found difficult to understand the real logic behind characters, survivability, stats and DPS. So I searched stats simulators, but most are obsolete or vanished!

Then I started to write one, using some wiki data, available server sources (I guess some things have been changed for TMW), TMW server data, and experimenting.

Should be quite good, but currently don't know how to compute
Focus skills bonuses.

DPS is only computed for weapon attack.
When using Bow/Sling you're suposed to be at max range minus one.
Mages DPS is shown for their weapon attack, but spell damage is
shown on current mob.
NB: #confringo is half damage on mob without any resistance....

You can download below or at [url]deleted[/url]
Last edited by 4144 on Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:34 am, edited 2 times in total. Reason: Removed link and attach with non free binary without license
#156452 by WildX
Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:02 pm
There is little real logic at this time. The system is due for a big overhaul. We want it more balanced and a generally better gameplay experience. You should get involved with development!
#156525 by Snoopy81
Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:08 pm
Binary without license was removed.
On this forum allowed post only free software or as exception non free but with known license and limitations. But this exe was without any license.


What is a license ?
I'm a person coding for myself and sharing my programs without asking anything.

On this forum allowed post only free software...

? It's written "Freeware" in StatsMP window, isn't that clear?

New version v1.41, still free, Freeware, anything you may call it.


To admin: Could you MP me exactly what is the problem?
#156526 by EJlol
Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:36 pm
A softwarelicense tells exactly what is and is not allowed to do. Stating that it is 'freeware' doesn't mean much. Some questions that come to mind that most licenses answers are:

- Are we allowed to execute it?
- Are we allowed to distribute it?
- Are we allowed to sell it?
- Are we allowed to modify the software?
- Are we allowed to look at the source code (decompile) and distribute the source code?
etc.

Some examples of (open source) licenses can be found here: https://opensource.org/licenses
Most of the licenses there may be used by anyone for free (yes, licenses can be copyrighted too :roll: ), so if you want you can just pick one and use it. But please do keep in mind the licenses linked there are open source, and may come with some requirements as sharing the code, which might not be what you want (we do recommend sharing the code though).
#156527 by 4144
Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:20 pm
Snoopy81 wrote:
Binary without license was removed.
On this forum allowed post only free software or as exception non free but with known license and limitations. But this exe was without any license.


What is a license ?
I'm a person coding for myself and sharing my programs without asking anything.

License is some kind of rules what allow and not allow do different things with your binary or sources. Link to licenses your already got in previous message.

Snoopy81 wrote:
On this forum allowed post only free software...

? It's written "Freeware" in StatsMP window, isn't that clear?


Best way for you will be if you put near your exe, aslo sources and put license file.
For example for manaplus sources: https://gitlab.com/manaplus/manaplus/tree/master, license: https://gitlab.com/manaplus/manaplus/bl ... er/COPYING or same file inside your folder where you install manaplus.
#156528 by gumi
Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:50 pm
? It's written "Freeware" in StatsMP window, isn't that clear?
For computer software, free can mean two things:
  • free as in free beer (gratis)
  • free as in free speech (libre)

See Gratis vs. Libre


What is a license ?
A software license is a set of conditions under which you release your software. Without an explicit license, your software is not considered libre. See choosealicense.

If you want the most permissive licenses, go with one of these:

The Mana World is fully open source and does not allow you to upload non-free (as in free speech) material. If you would like more details on how to get started, see Starting an Open Source Project



you can also ask us questions on IRC if you need help: #themanaworld on Freenode.
#156530 by glag
Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:50 pm
Thank you Snoopy81 for releasing your source code under a free (libre) license.

This means a lot to everyone here :)
#156538 by Amarynthus
Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:43 pm
gumi wrote:Without an explicit license, your software is not considered libre.

While true, that seems a little misleading to me. Without a license, not only is it not libre, but it is techically illegal for anyone to use it in any way.

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