Shop killer in da house

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Rikki
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Shop killer in da house

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[08:46] joiliana: hi rikki
[08:46] Tengri: hi again
[08:46] joiliana: where are you 4 shops
[08:46] Tengri: i had just 1
[08:46] Tengri: Leanne
[08:46] Tengri: others are not mine
[08:46] joiliana: lol
[08:46] joiliana: all are yours
[08:46] Tengri: there are a lot of ppl with shops
[08:47] Tengri: at least 3 of my guildmates have shops too
[08:47] Tengri: easily to tell by the clothes style
[08:47] Tengri: usually shops resemble the style of their owner
[08:47] joiliana: tell them that i will corupt them cuz needfull things scammed on me for 60 k
[08:48] Tengri: shops are fully automated so it's not a scam but probably a glitch in interaction
[08:48] joiliana: lol
[08:48] joiliana: take 60 k and not give items
[08:48] joiliana: lol
[08:48] Tengri: yes, such things happened several times before
[08:49] joiliana: i knew that all shops are yours
[08:49] Tengri: if you are so desperate to insist, you can do it
[08:49] joiliana: needfull + skell mart + lanne + supply store
[08:49] Tengri: but it changes nothing
[08:49] Tengri: i do not operate any of them except Leanne
[08:50] joiliana: yes i will make them banned or offline each time i see cuz iam not the one who can players here scam on me
[08:50] Tengri:  :o :)
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Re: Shop killer in da house

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Afaik all shops are running on either tmwchat plugin for emacs or manachat. Sometimes trade window closes by itself and you need to make a trade another time. Maybe the glitches are because of packet loss, idk. That's what another fellow shop owner says about the possible reason:
I've noticed trade errors occasionally, like where a player confirms and accepts trade before the shop adds the item. With tmwchat, the trade messages are logged, so sometimes i could tell when that happens and refund the player. Manachat doesn't log those messages though. Well actually tmwchat logs to a buffer in emacs, not to a file, but the buffer data can be saved.
So, i totally understand being upset on such a glitch. But in any case, it's not the reason to make groundless statements, spam everyone's shops and so on. If I would have been asked, I would tell him who to talk about Needfull Things, it's not a big secret after all and everyone who is really curious can find it out.
Last edited by Rikki on 23 Aug 2016, 12:40, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Shop killer in da house

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All chat spam ban messages from this month's GM logs:

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[2016-08-08 14:47:07] 009-1(53,44) GinariaGM(2256418) : @autoban GinariaGM 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-09 00:16:20] 011-6(66,77) Jojache(2253658) : @autoban Jojache 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-21 13:04:53] 009-1(52,44) Maggots Store(2256440) : @autoban Maggots Store 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-21 15:38:28] 009-2(25,100) MinD.Deadly(2249146) : @autoban MinD.Deadly 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-21 15:38:35] 009-2(27,98) Supply Store(2251018) : @autoban Supply Store 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-21 15:50:55] 026-2(29,121) badDaD(2257056) : @autoban badDaD 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-21 20:14:21] 009-2(25,98) niceG(2257061) : @autoban niceG 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-21 20:15:18] 009-2(29,98) badDaD(2257056) : @autoban badDaD 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-21 21:49:58] 009-2(27,98) Supply Store(2251018) : @autoban Supply Store 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-21 21:57:58] 026-2(28,120) Skel-Mart(2253628) : @autoban Skel-Mart 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-21 23:06:23] 026-2(28,120) Skel-Mart(2253628) : @autoban Skel-Mart 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-21 23:09:46] 009-2(27,98) Supply Store(2251018) : @autoban Supply Store 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 00:26:46] 009-2(27,98) Supply Store(2251018) : @autoban Supply Store 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 00:32:33] 026-2(28,120) Skel-Mart(2253628) : @autoban Skel-Mart 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 04:15:18] 026-2(28,120) Skel-Mart(2253628) : @autoban Skel-Mart 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 04:20:07] 009-2(29,98) lokiu(2257056) : @autoban lokiu 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 04:20:11] 009-2(25,98) kioutr(2257061) : @autoban kioutr 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 04:20:30] 009-2(27,98) Supply Store(2251018) : @autoban Supply Store 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 09:16:00] 009-2(27,99) joiliana(2257071) : @autoban joiliana 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 09:16:11] 009-2(29,98) lokiu(2257056) : @autoban lokiu 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 09:16:14] 009-2(25,98) kioutr(2257061) : @autoban kioutr 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 09:17:04] 009-2(27,98) Supply Store(2251018) : @autoban Supply Store 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 09:57:30] 026-2(30,120) meza(2257073) : @autoban meza 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 09:57:35] 026-2(29,120) ahter(2257072) : @autoban ahter 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 09:59:42] 026-2(28,120) Skel-Mart(2253628) : @autoban Skel-Mart 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 10:23:24] 009-2(25,98) kioutr(2257061) : @autoban kioutr 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 10:23:27] 009-2(29,98) lokiu(2257056) : @autoban lokiu 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 17:21:41] 009-2(33,105) Leanne's Boutique(2251235) : @autoban Leanne's Boutique 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 17:26:23] 009-2(25,98) lokiu(2257056) : @autoban lokiu 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 17:26:26] 009-2(29,98) kioutr(2257061) : @autoban kioutr 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 17:32:49] 026-2(29,120) ahter(2257072) : @autoban ahter 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 17:32:59] 009-2(27,98) Supply Store(2251018) : @autoban Supply Store 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 17:33:01] 026-2(30,120) meza(2257073) : @autoban meza 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-22 17:36:00] 026-2(28,120) Skel-Mart(2253628) : @autoban Skel-Mart 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-23 08:33:25] 009-2(33,105) Leanne's Boutique(2251235) : @autoban Leanne's Boutique 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-23 08:38:05] 026-2(30,120) meza(2257073) : @autoban meza 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-23 08:40:47] 026-2(28,120) Skel-Mart(2253628) : @autoban Skel-Mart 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-23 08:45:40] 009-2(29,98) lokiu(2257056) : @autoban lokiu 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-23 08:45:45] 009-2(25,98) kioutr(2257061) : @autoban kioutr 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-23 08:49:13] 009-2(27,98) Supply Store(2251018) : @autoban Supply Store 1h (chat spam)
[2016-08-23 10:21:12] 009-2(25,98) kioutr(2257061) : @autoban kioutr 1h (chat spam)
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Re: Shop killer in da house

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It's not the bot's fault but rather the player's fault. The trade system has a failsafe. First the two parties put in trade what they want, then they both need to confirm, then they accept. If one of the two parties changes the items (or money) after confirmation, both parties need to confirm AGAIN before accepting the trade. This means even if a bot were to sneakily remove the items riiiiiiiiight before you click accept, you would need to re-confirm before accepting. This means the buyer paid no attention to the trade and just clicked the buttons without checking.


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also, rikki, instead of making 3 posts you could just use the edit button
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