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Stats and DPS computed for TMW

Posted: 08 Nov 2017, 09:27
by Snoopy81
Hello all
I recently discovered this game, and randomly picked up TMW server because magic was supposed to be implemented and not on Evol.
After few weeks, I still found difficult to understand the real logic behind characters, survivability, stats and DPS. So I searched stats simulators, but most are obsolete or vanished!

Then I started to write one, using some wiki data, available server sources (I guess some things have been changed for TMW), TMW server data, and experimenting.

Should be quite good, but currently don't know how to compute
Focus skills bonuses.

DPS is only computed for weapon attack.
When using Bow/Sling you're suposed to be at max range minus one.
Mages DPS is shown for their weapon attack, but spell damage is
shown on current mob.
NB: #confringo is half damage on mob without any resistance....

You can download below or at deleted

Re: Stats and DPS computed for TMW

Posted: 08 Nov 2017, 15:02
by WildX
There is little real logic at this time. The system is due for a big overhaul. We want it more balanced and a generally better gameplay experience. You should get involved with development!

Re: Stats and DPS computed for TMW

Posted: 23 Nov 2017, 21:35
by Snoopy81
Update for StatsMP:
v1.4 now includes Focus skills...

You can download or on link below.

Re: Stats and DPS computed for TMW

Posted: 26 Nov 2017, 17:56
by Tirifto
Would you please release this program as libre software (preferably under a copyleft licence)?

Re: Stats and DPS computed for TMW

Posted: 26 Nov 2017, 23:37
by 4144
Binary without license was removed.
On this forum allowed post only free software or as exception non free but with known license and limitations. But this exe was without any license.

Re: Stats and DPS computed for TMW

Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 14:08
by Snoopy81
Binary without license was removed.
On this forum allowed post only free software or as exception non free but with known license and limitations. But this exe was without any license.
What is a license ?
I'm a person coding for myself and sharing my programs without asking anything.
On this forum allowed post only free software...
? It's written "Freeware" in StatsMP window, isn't that clear?

New version v1.41, still free, Freeware, anything you may call it.


To admin: Could you MP me exactly what is the problem?

Re: Stats and DPS computed for TMW

Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 14:36
by EJlol
A softwarelicense tells exactly what is and is not allowed to do. Stating that it is 'freeware' doesn't mean much. Some questions that come to mind that most licenses answers are:

- Are we allowed to execute it?
- Are we allowed to distribute it?
- Are we allowed to sell it?
- Are we allowed to modify the software?
- Are we allowed to look at the source code (decompile) and distribute the source code?
etc.

Some examples of (open source) licenses can be found here: https://opensource.org/licenses
Most of the licenses there may be used by anyone for free (yes, licenses can be copyrighted too :roll: ), so if you want you can just pick one and use it. But please do keep in mind the licenses linked there are open source, and may come with some requirements as sharing the code, which might not be what you want (we do recommend sharing the code though).

Re: Stats and DPS computed for TMW

Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 15:20
by 4144
Snoopy81 wrote:
Binary without license was removed.
On this forum allowed post only free software or as exception non free but with known license and limitations. But this exe was without any license.
What is a license ?
I'm a person coding for myself and sharing my programs without asking anything.
License is some kind of rules what allow and not allow do different things with your binary or sources. Link to licenses your already got in previous message.
Snoopy81 wrote:
On this forum allowed post only free software...
? It's written "Freeware" in StatsMP window, isn't that clear?
Best way for you will be if you put near your exe, aslo sources and put license file.
For example for manaplus sources: https://gitlab.com/manaplus/manaplus/tree/master, license: https://gitlab.com/manaplus/manaplus/bl ... er/COPYING or same file inside your folder where you install manaplus.

Re: Stats and DPS computed for TMW

Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 16:50
by gumi
? It's written "Freeware" in StatsMP window, isn't that clear?
For computer software, free can mean two things:
  • free as in free beer (gratis)
  • free as in free speech (libre)
See Gratis vs. Libre

What is a license ?
A software license is a set of conditions under which you release your software. Without an explicit license, your software is not considered libre. See choosealicense.

If you want the most permissive licenses, go with one of these:
The Mana World is fully open source and does not allow you to upload non-free (as in free speech) material. If you would like more details on how to get started, see Starting an Open Source Project



you can also ask us questions on IRC if you need help: #themanaworld on Freenode.

Re: Stats and DPS computed for TMW

Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 19:25
by Snoopy81
Finally I choose the last one, simplest one too!

Remove if wrong!
(And please explain what's wrong...)
http://sn81.free.fr/snoopy81/files/StatsMP1.50.7z

Should be OK like that

Re: Stats and DPS computed for TMW

Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 20:50
by glag
Thank you Snoopy81 for releasing your source code under a free (libre) license.

This means a lot to everyone here :)

Re: Stats and DPS computed for TMW

Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 21:51
by 4144
thanks

Re: Stats and DPS computed for TMW

Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 12:43
by Amarynthus
gumi wrote:Without an explicit license, your software is not considered libre.
While true, that seems a little misleading to me. Without a license, not only is it not libre, but it is techically illegal for anyone to use it in any way.

Re: Stats and DPS computed for TMW

Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 09:50
by Snoopy81
StatsMP updated to version 1.60:
Added a full feature "stun meter".

Download here v1.60 or on the official forum.

StatsMP updated to version 1.61:
Improved mob's hints to be more useful.
Fixed Elemental resistances versus spells.

Download here v1.61 or on the official forum.

Re: Stats and DPS computed for TMW

Posted: 19 Dec 2017, 18:41
by TeZeR.D
A hole in your stats I've noticed (not your fault by the way):
Banshee bow does not give +70 crit damage, instead it gives +70% (or something similar, perhaps it gives both crit damage and chance, i'm not sure) crit chance (yes, item description is wrong)
Part of the reason why it's such a strong item, I don't fully understand it, but it is affecting stats heavily.