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I'd like to remap Tulimshar and it's surroundings.
Maps:
001: Tulimshar proper
002: sandstorm
003: south Tulimshar (farms, etc)
004: docks area
005: snake desert (no changes, save for maybe some small stuff outside walkable area)
006: mountain (no changes)
021: north of Tulimshar proper
022: south of south Tulimshar
023: never finished, can be used for something else
024: still magic school (needs remapping)
magic school and tutorial can keep their numbers (but need remapping)
041: unused
042: still tutorial area (needs remapping; basic layout can stay, but I'd like some more details and buildings)

This keeps many map contents somewhat the same. We'll probably leave the palace area unmapped for a while (black it out?). 023 and 041 can be used for other things (I'd like to look at more islands). Everyone in the affected maps (except tutorial maps) would be sent to the menhir before the server is restarted (can be done after the char-server is brought down). Characters in the tutorial area during the move would be sent to the starting point (which is in the tutorial area).

I'd like to set up a mapping server (experimental Tiled technology) so the region can be mapped by several people at the same time. When it's done, we'd break it up into the maps above.

The bazaar will be in the square. Elenore can go in the SW corner of the square. The menhir outside the government building north of the square (maybe a monument area due north of the south road).

jaxad0127 wrote:002: sandstorm

Hey jax how about a quest for this map? maybe recieve sand goggles through a quest (if doable) to pass through the sandstorm map? just a suggestion

yubabax116 wrote:

jaxad0127 wrote:002: sandstorm

Hey jax how about a quest for this map? maybe recieve sand goggles through a quest (if doable) to pass through the sandstorm map? just a suggestion

We already have a sandstorm map (map 002-1, actually). My proposal would somewhat change that map.

Starting a list of NPC's which will need their scripts updated to reflect the new layout in their cardinal directions for players. Will add more as I find them.

042-2: sorfina.txt
042-1: hasan.txt
001-1: gossip.txt

Crush wrote:Jaxads image didn't load for me when hotlinked, so I uploaded it to the forum in case others have the same problem:

tulimshar.png

I changed mine to your attachment.

yubabax116 wrote:

jaxad0127 wrote:002: sandstorm

Hey jax how about a quest for this map? maybe recieve sand goggles through a quest (if doable) to pass through the sandstorm map? just a suggestion

That is doable. Maybe do like Legend of Zelda and have the player get lost without the goggles, always returning to Tulimshar's gate. I put the magic school just north of the sandstorm and gave them a magic gate between. I think we can do some magic plots related to the strange perpetual sandstorm.

jaxad0127 wrote:

Crush wrote:Jaxads image didn't load for me when hotlinked, so I uploaded it to the forum in case others have the same problem:

tulimshar.png

I changed mine to your attachment.

The selected attachment does not exist anymore.

I think the new map needs to stress where the major inland trade routes are.

Obviously, the city should be build upon a river, which provides one path for trade (this does not invalidate the need for wells, which provide pure water. It would be nice if parts of the bay were visible - a trading port needs to be a defensible port, both from nature and from enemies (pirate or other nations, which are often the same thing).

Also keep in mind that a river for trade is not bridgeable by medieval technology (it is wide (probably 30 tiles, a good map transition, although I recommend the other side being visible), and would have to be tall enough for ships to pass under) (although you could make it bridged by magic). There would, however, be common ferries and rafts, and possibly bridges far upstream (possibly above a fork, which means narrower halves).

o11c wrote:Also keep in mind that a river for trade is not bridgeable by medieval technology

When you write fantasy, don't forget that you are not writing historical fiction. Liabilities with consistent technology and laws of physic are permitted in that genre.

Crush wrote:

o11c wrote:Also keep in mind that a river for trade is not bridgeable by medieval technology

When you write fantasy, don't forget that you are not writing historical fiction. Liabilities with consistent technology and laws of physic are permitted in that genre.

o11c wrote:(although you could make it bridged by magic).

Also, now that I think about it, this would make a stopping point (to avoid getting overloaded by too much stuff to map), and point of future expansion (construction via magic of a bridge).

eTHiiXx has expressed interest in remapping Tulimshar, and Jaxad is inactive.

Regardless of details of who actually ends up doing the work,
does anyone have objections to this thread being made public?

made public and bumped for wushin's interest.