Current Status?

[FlameBoy]

What is the current status of CR1? From what I can see... nothing much has happened on it.

I currently have some free time on my hands, and would be willing to work on completing CR1. I recently setup a manaserv server and was impressed at how far it has come and I believe it is ready for use!

Personally, I would start by porting all the current aethena work to manaserv and then start new working from there. At least then players can start using manaserv.

It just seems like a lot of effort needs to be put in when we could just start with the current game and work from that.

[o11c]

Personally, I would start by porting all the current aethena work to manaserv and then start new working from there. At least then players can start using manaserv.

The problem is, that ManaServ is not designed to be compatible.

CR1 is pretty dead because there's no benefit seen. But nowadays there's the LPC entry ...

[FlameBoy]

So, is the LPC entry like the "new" mana world?

Would there be any interest in porting what we have to manaserv? I think it could be a difficult task, but might get more interest into the project.

[Ablu]

So, is the LPC entry like the "new" mana world?

Would there be any interest in porting what we have to manaserv? I think it could be a difficult task, but might get more interest into the project.

Hello,

We did the LPC entry independent from the mana world. The LPC had two phases. One art phase and one code phase.
In the art phase all the graphics were made. So our LPC entry does NOT depend on tmw somehow. It is a completly new project.

ManaServ was in development since a long time now. It was never really stable before. So nobody really used it. With the LPC we run a test to check how good our server is and where it still need works. We are working on this rough edges now to get the server and client well working with the features we want to see. So ManaServ is still not recommended for using as a base for a game (especially when you do not know a lot about the server).

I cannot say anything about porting over The Mana World to ManaServ since i am not a dev here.

Best regards,
Ablu

[FlameBoy]

I suppose I thought that manaserv was ready for a proper game. Is there a plan to switch TMW to manaserv when it is declared production ready?

[Ablu]

If there is. It is a lot of work. All scripts have to be rewritten. Would be a good reason to fix some other stuff while one it though...

[Jenalya]

I suppose I thought that manaserv was ready for a proper game. Is there a plan to switch TMW to manaserv when it is declared production ready?

What exactly is your idea of switching? If you mean something like porting every quest and every item, I don't think that'd make sense. There are many historically grown things in tmw that are very unfortunate in my opinion - e.g. starting in the desert. Or using GPL for the graphics.
So if porting at all, then it'd might make sense to create a new tmw game that could be based on the same background story, with the same places, but mostly new content regarding quests and items. But then the question remains about what graphics to use. Personally, I wouldn't want to start a new project using the old tmw GPL graphics, but rather graphics licensed with something more suited for graphics.

[FlameBoy]

Well, I thought that was what CR1 was meant to do, but as it seems dead now I don't see that as a viable option as it might just repeat itself.

I only suggest porting the current content as then people might be more interested in getting TMW on manaserv. Even if we start with just one place, such as Hurnscald.

Are all the graphics under the GPL?

[Bertram]

Hi,

Personally, I wouldn't want to start a new project using the old tmw GPL graphics, but rather graphics licensed with something more suited for graphics.

I guess the main idea is here. The Liberated Pixel Cup made a great opportunity to create a new basic MMORPG world using Manaserv, permitting to show up the rough edges, turn the client more into a game client than a dialog and pop-up client, ect...
And sincerely, they did pretty well! (Yes, they did!)

Manaserv has been quite not loved by the community because seeing no tangible results for so long, but IMHO, without begin part of the LPC team, I know they've open a big door to a possible "new" World using the manaserv technology, which has proven since a few weeks now, it is basically working. Just try it out.

Manaserv with full TMW content would be a bad and insanely hard to make idea, IMHO, but Manaserv with its own world, bringing features one after another in a more thorough way is the way to go.

My two cents as an elder here.

Best regards,

[FlameBoy]

I have actually used the LPC entry and I was very impressed. Perhaps once the LPC has been judged and is all over, a new MMORPG should be formed using the LPC as a base and just adding more quests, NPCs, places etc. I would be very interested in being part of this project if it were to form. I'm not a pixel artist, but I am a C/C++ programmer and I like making maps.

[Jenalya]

Perhaps once the LPC has been judged and is all over, a new MMORPG should be formed using the LPC as a base and just adding more quests, NPCs, places etc. I would be very interested in being part of this project if it were to form. I'm not a pixel artist, but I am a C/C++ programmer and I like making maps.

We're going to continue with the game, bug-fixing already started in the repository, we just can't update the testing server, since it should stay on the lpc submission state for the judges.
And before adding new stuff, it's planned to tidy-up our existing content, as lots of it was done in a haste and solved the quick-and-dirty way.
You can find us in #mana-lpc on Freenode.

[Matt]

It is a shame that CR1 generates no interest anymore
A game full with highquality content would be great, but no effort was successful before :/

As Rotonen would say, current TMW content sucks and is merely a placeholder.

[Crush]

Rotonen was someone who talked and complained a lot, but who didn't contributed much himself.

[Matt]

Alike people like eachother

edit: btw, is the cool stuff like the windmill etc ingame?

[tux9th]

It isn't but it would be ready to be brought in game.
I think the tileset is complete plus the animation as well.

But for details ask Jen. I'm not totally sure