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Rotonen wrote:So can anyone solve this problem of ours? I see 2 options:

1) Develop something inhouse. (This would fall on our tech devs.)
2) Externalize the problem. (Bug the GIMP development mailing lists or some similar resource.)

In any case we need someone to take responsibility for the realization or it will not happen.

Hmm... What problem? You meant previewing of tile? I believe a plugin (display filters?) can be made for that in GIMP.

Saphy wrote:

Rotonen wrote:So can anyone solve this problem of ours? I see 2 options:

1) Develop something inhouse. (This would fall on our tech devs.)
2) Externalize the problem. (Bug the GIMP development mailing lists or some similar resource.)

In any case we need someone to take responsibility for the realization or it will not happen.

Hmm... What problem? You meant previewing of tile? I believe a plugin (display filters?) can be made for that in GIMP.

Yeah, they're talking about doing it in GIMP. The issue is, you know, actually getting it done. Either they need to find someone else who's done it, or they need to do it themselves. I'd offer my own help .. but I don't have anything written to accomplish the job. I also don't use Gimp, so I wouldn't be able to use it myself.

I posted request on gimptalk.com board and on polish gimpuj.info forums. However I didn't received any constructive answer yet. Last few days I was reading gimp's source code. And believe me, TMW sources are easier to understand :P

1) Develop something inhouse. (This would fall on our tech devs.)

That's not a good option. We are not familiar with Gimp's sources. That could take a long time to develop something nice, stable and useful.

2) Externalize the problem. (Bug the GIMP development mailing lists or some similar resource.)

That's the way I prefer.

What Gimp Plugins are people useing and for what?
This would be helpful for newbs (like me) to get up
to speed more quickly.

Thanks!

Wendel wrote:What Gimp Plugins are people useing and for what?
This would be helpful for newbs (like me) to get up
to speed more quickly.

Thanks!

I don't use any additional/third party plugins. Just the native features are good enough for me.

Making animation in gimp however, can be a little time consuming, but I really don't know of any other methods of pixelation.

I haven't had the chance to play with these much, however, I have fooled around with the software that is packaged with them, and it seemed to function well (as far as I could tell).

http://www.artistx.org/site2/

http://www.musix.org.ar/

Artistx and Musix are both live CD/DVDs that come packaged with software to assist in creating many things pertaining to art. Musix focuses on just audio creation and editing. Artistx has some audio creation software in it, but it also has video and graphics software as well.

As I mentioned earlier, I am not super familiar with these things, but my first impressions were good. Maybe someone with a little more knowledge of audio/graphics editing could give them a test run and post your thoughts.

Here's a list of useful plug-ins for GIMP:

Sprite and Animation:
http://www.trueelena.org/proj/scripts/tile_layers.php
http://registry.gimp.org/node/1771

Colour Theme:
http://registry.gimp.org/node/5442

Layer Effect (very useful):
http://registry.gimp.org/node/186

u guys evr heard of inkscape?
its a free vector image thing
i dont know if its any use to anyone but just thought to mention it

Some of our pixel artists actually use it for outlining to get the perspective right.

I know it's not exactly what you need, but when creating tiles for my small game project I use a little home-grown tool which shows tiles (how many you need) and reloads them whenever you click it.
It's not "live preview" - you must save image and click the viewer again and again.

Hehe, I asked a GIMP developer that did a presentation at the FOSDEM back in 2005 about a similar plugin Irukard is looking for here. I actually wanted to add a small map editor window to GIMP that would allow you to draw a map with the tiles in the tileset you're editing, which would update instantly as you draw on the tileset. Unfortunately I never got around to looking into the details. I only got as far as compiling a plugin skeleton basically.

But indeed, it takes a lot of time to figure out whether it can be done and to implement it, as Irukard pointed out. Meanwhile what I can do is implement automatic reloading of a tileset when it changes on disk in Tiled. The Java version can do this already, but you have to press F5. I'll see about adding automatic reloading to the Qt version.

automatic reloading would be nice. But when I save my art I most of the time do it under a different name, so that I do not lose the previous version (cave1.png, cave2.png, cave3.png etc).

EJlol wrote:automatic reloading would be nice. But when I save my art I most of the time do it under a different name, so that I do not lose the previous version (cave1.png, cave2.png, cave3.png etc).

So you have to use "work-copy". "Save as copy" is very useful.

In the area of Tiled auto-updating tilesets, someone is finishing it up.