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Re: Forest track

Posted: 07 Apr 2008, 07:40
by ElvenProgrammer
Lovely. It really made me think of an abandoned city, a mana temple or a peaceful forest.
For me it's more than ok.

Re: Forest track

Posted: 09 Apr 2008, 21:35
by dariunas
Thank you Elven...

I'm close to completion of this, but I fear I've put a few too many changes in this... I think it sounds quite nice, but I'm just not sure if it flows and is as well rounded as the others I've done so far... I'm sorry, but my ears have grown very accustomed to this track so anything too loud or badly panned (I think the violins are too far over left sometimes... but maybe it's my imagination) then please do let me know.

http://www.infectedmusicdesigns.co.uk/T ... ial_v4.ogg

Re: Forest track

Posted: 09 Apr 2008, 22:19
by AxlTrozz
Exquisite !!

I like it in all the extension of the word :D

Re: Forest track

Posted: 09 Apr 2008, 22:26
by Crush
I noticed that your songs usually have a quite long intro. I think they would be better when you would get a bit faster to the point. The song is already quite long with 4:33. Cutting a few bars in the first half minute wouldn't hurt, IMO.

Besides that I think that the song is really great.

Re: Forest track

Posted: 09 Apr 2008, 22:45
by GonzoDark
dariunas wrote:Thank you Elven...

I'm close to completion of this, but I fear I've put a few too many changes in this... I think it sounds quite nice, but I'm just not sure if it flows and is as well rounded as the others I've done so far... I'm sorry, but my ears have grown very accustomed to this track so anything too loud or badly panned (I think the violins are too far over left sometimes... but maybe it's my imagination) then please do let me know.

http://www.infectedmusicdesigns.co.uk/T ... ial_v4.ogg
Can't describe this master piece with words, because there is no words there are sufficient enough to give a full picture of what I experience with this track.

It brought me on a fantastic journey into a unseen world of wonders :shock:

Can't wait to hear this in-game - and OMG I love your work :wink:

And I can't wait to see your next master piece.

and about how to make it even better;

1. 1:34 to 1.42 <-- You made the background sound volume higher. (and different tones- sounds weird)
2. The intro is kinda long (but not that much-just a little)
3. Make it loop more smoothly

// GonzoDark

Keep up the good work ;)

Re: Forest track

Posted: 09 Apr 2008, 23:40
by dariunas
GonzoDark wrote: ...
and about how to make it even better;

1. 1:34 to 1.42 <-- You made the background sound volume higher. (and different tones- sounds weird)
2. The intro is kinda long (but not that much-just a little)
3. Make it loop more smoothly

// GonzoDark

Keep up the good work ;)
1. Well raised! My idea at the time was that this little section would basically be a little rise and fall in dynamics - unfortunately, I don't think I got the difference quite right, or abandoned the idea half way through so it does sound strange - I'll even out the volume swells here...

2. I actually added an few bars at the beginning at some point between v3 and this one as I was going to put some brass sections in, but I decided to stick to the woodwind and strings more in the end... so I'll take that extra bit straight back out.

3. This might be the hard bit due to the way the track evolves in the later stages, but I've think the main problem is that the violas at the end are actually quite rushed and decay very suddenly, but I think this isn't too hard to fix...

Thank you very much for the other very kind words, I'm glad you like it and hope players do too :)

Crush, you're also right on the money about the intro. Though I think a slow start is usually a very good way to ease the player in and is better approach than suddenly throwing a load of instruments in too soon, however, if all my music is doing that though, that's probably not a good thing as I don't think town-type music really needs long intros... with that in mind, I'll chop off the first two bars (first 6 seconds) from the snow village track :wink:

Re: Forest track

Posted: 10 Apr 2008, 00:27
by Superkoop
:shock:
I love it.
This and the snow place track is fantabulous!

I think I will be looping this track for the rest of the day (sadly only 4 hrs left of it).
(note, when it comes to non lyrical music, I am quite picky. So, you've done well.)

Keep on making this beautiful art, please. =)

Re: Forest track

Posted: 12 Apr 2008, 09:24
by dariunas
Thanks - it's always nice to hear :mrgreen:

Have the forest track completed now...

http://www.infectedmusicdesigns.co.uk/T ... Forest.ogg

Re: Forest track

Posted: 12 Apr 2008, 10:36
by i
Image

If you are looking for inspiration listen to this:
http://rs79.rapidshare.com/files/74107378/JELONEK.rar

Polish progressive rock without vocal, but with famous violin.

Re: Forest track

Posted: 22 Apr 2008, 03:44
by Rotonen
Cannot per se say anything negative here.

Just a bit of something in general. When composing for an MMO, it's probably one of the hardest platforms you can come across. The music cannot be invasive or too captivating. It cannot try to tell a story, at least not by itself. It's just a supplementary to the scenery and what is going on generally. This is really different from a movie and single player experiences. The player will hear the song over and over and over again, in the same place, but the situation might be very different and dynamic.

In movies and single player games you usually have scenes which are going to play out just the way the director wanted them to and hence it's easier to figure out what kinds of emotions we want the crowd to go through. MMOs are about freedom, how to react to that?

The best example of an often repeating single player piece of music is a battle theme. Most people love these even though they are repetitive. Why? Because they're functional, they get you in the mood of fighting immediately. They are energetic and aggressive. They rise your adrenaline level and prepare you for the battle even though you just hear the theme later on and are not playing. Unfortunately that probably is not a luxury we have at our disposal. That is actually something we have to avoid. We are crudely enough said doing elevator music here. Something to make things more pleasant and enjoyable, something to stay in the background without taking on the main role.

Not saying this applies too much to this piece or anything else presented lately, just pointing out.

Re: Forest track

Posted: 10 Jun 2008, 01:31
by Saphy
dariunas wrote:Thanks - it's always nice to hear :mrgreen:

Have the forest track completed now...

http://www.infectedmusicdesigns.co.uk/T ... Forest.ogg
Not bad, but for background music in MMORPG, I believe it is best to have more stepwise melodic tune (possibly in major chords) as they are not as captivating. The same with the sudden drumming.

Creating music for MMORPG game is indeed very challenging.

Re: Forest track

Posted: 10 Jun 2008, 10:55
by Shaili (a.k.a. tds)
dariunas, I think this track is amazing. I tried it in-game and I must tell that suits the atmosphere in a great way. I hope to see your music implemented soon.

P.S.: Copied the track on my mp3 ;)