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Rotonen wrote:

skipy wrote:

Rotonen wrote:Do try to minimize things: if there is a large static portion and a small animated portion, make it 2 sprites and use XML magic.

i not sure what you ment by 2 sprite.(i slow in the head sometimes )..what think you are saying is ...the moving on one sheet and non-moving on a other sheet..if this is how/what you are saying ...it should be no problem to do

Yes, separate sheets for moving parts and static parts. Saves in storage space and client memory usage.

its alot of work for what is done .....but in the Future i will keep this in mind...
also if this sort of thing works for (npc)s can it work for monsters as well?? (like wings flapping on a dragon and stuff like that)

----------------------------skipy

skipy wrote:its alot of work for what is done .....but in the Future i will keep this in mind...
also if this sort of thing works for (npc)s can it work for monsters as well?? (like wings flapping on a dragon and stuff like that)

Yes. It is already used for a few monster "accessory sets" by Fother. For example see the sea slime XML and related sprites. So you can also use any existing sprites and do overlays on them this way. Via XML magic you can stack on top of each other and move in relation to each other any sprites the client has in its client data.

If it means a lot of extra work for creating sprites for you, it is not worth it. My thought here was to leave the pixel artists do whatever they want to do and let the packagers scratch their heads over this kind of trickery.

In case you ever need this, now you know what you can do so my ranting here has not been all in vain.

Rotonen wrote:

skipy wrote:its alot of work for what is done .....but in the Future i will keep this in mind...
also if this sort of thing works for (npc)s can it work for monsters as well?? (like wings flapping on a dragon and stuff like that)

Yes. It is already used for a few monster "accessory sets" by Fother. For example see the sea slime XML and related sprites. So you can also use any existing sprites and do overlays on them this way. Via XML magic you can stack on top of each other and move in relation to each other any sprites the client has in its client data.

If it means a lot of extra work for creating sprites for you, it is not worth it. My thought here was to leave the pixel artists do whatever they want to do and let the packagers scratch their heads over this kind of trickery.

In case you ever need this, now you know what you can do so my ranting here has not been all in vain.

sweet...
thanks for the info...what i was thinking is this can make a tiny bit harder to start ...but way easyer in the long run..also more organized...and may allow for more complex stuff in the future...

i will do some more research on this...

---------------------skipy

I just added all the npcs in a straight line at the gyinn, just for a quick test.

All npcs look great! There is one small/minor exception: the Crying Child. There seems to be a white outline around it. I think it was skipy working on it, so if you get the chance could you touch it up and paste the update png. Thanks skipy. The xml works very well, so no problems there.

The correct placing of each npc and proper scripts will still have to be done. I might do this myself, with some guidance as to where each one should be placed and what they should say.

nmaligec wrote:I just added all the npcs in a straight line at the gyinn, just for a quick test.

All npcs look great! There is one small/minor exception: the Crying Child. There seems to be a white outline around it. I think it was skipy working on it.

It's not Skipy ^^ It's me and Lien.

I will corect that when i got time... When do you need it?

No real rush atm, a week or two is fine. As I said its minor and as long as its 99% and the xml is correct, I can keep going with the rest of the quest. I really appreciate all your hard work Lien, pretty soon you will be able to see it all in game!

nmaligec wrote:No real rush atm, a week or two is fine. As I said its minor and as long as its 99% and the xml is correct, I can keep going with the rest of the quest. I really appreciate all your hard work Lien, pretty soon you will be able to see it all in game!

People will need to pay the sink and... I'm not LIEN! O-O I said that Lien AND me did that :p .
Well, give me by pm every little bug that you found, i will corect all when i got time ^^

Reid wrote:People will need to pay the sink

Yeah, well, how?
500 milions is a lot of money we will never reach 500M and you know.
Oh, and I didn't know that DEVs needs money to add a new area...
Rich people spent his money to buy rares from the exotic trader, to go to the terranite cave by teleport, to use the ferry, with many things that are useful for them, not to reach such a huge amount of money. We reached 18M gp that will never be used for the gy inn because the 500M were not reached and will never be.
That's all, regards.

.:WildX:. wrote:

Reid wrote:People will need to pay the sink

Yeah, well, how?
500 milions is a lot of money we will never reach 500M and you know.
Oh, and I didn't know that DEVs needs money to add a new area...
Rich people spent his money to buy rares from the exotic trader, to go to the terranite cave by teleport, to use the ferry, with many things that are useful for them, not to reach such a huge amount of money. We reached 18M gp that will never be used for the gy inn because the 500M were not reached and will never be.
That's all, regards.

WIldy, i never said that i was ok with the sink (or not?... hum.) But its what devs did, so in wait of an other thing, we can't do many thing.... I hope the inn will be useful soon ^^


Btw, nmaligec, give me everything doc, like that i can see what dont work... I dont know if the file are on the git or no.... I will change that enter two maps...