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I'm not aware of any plans or proposals to remove or replace the classless system.


---Freeyorp

@Freeyorp I guess not, AFAIK we are not planing to do that.

Now going back to the charset, just to avoid any compliant about that is "naked", there is a temporary layer with underwear:


1. I reduced the shoulder, chest and arms to balance the proportions,
2. there is some space left on the sides so he can move (animations) and the armor can be detailed on the sides too
3. more detailed body/muscle
4. I moved the head forward and fixed the shoulder to get a better perspective (thank Len for the advise)

Still to do:
1. the head
1. face (at least the initial face)
2. need to reduce like 3 or 4 pixels the overall high (room for all those fancy hats and shoes too)
3. color
4. feet details
5. a label (you know GPL, version and all that stuff)
6. the whole girl version

Note: we still can discard this version and work a new one, if so, just let me know and I can keep looking for more ideas and concepts


EDIT : more balancing work


I think I'll call this concept1.

AxlTrozz wrote:I left 2 or 3 pixels on the side for armors overhead, you know spikes and stuff like that, for the moment think that is wearing a Startrek suit .

There is no technical need for that. The pieces of equipment we decide to show on the playerset are pasted on the fly on top of the playerset and the size of the playerset and the equipmentset are not really connected.

Also nice to see information is propagating between people here and people are starting to be on the same page about things. Even though at times the lack of shared information tends to lead into conflict, so far we are managing.

Hmm I think, the char is too humanoid, too real, I'll work in a less conventional version. or you let me know if concept1 is a good start.

*Bump* well I had some issues with my ISP been blocked by the server but I have access again, thanks Irukard and Rotonen.

In a recent talk Irukard told me there is a possibility we can explore using a new technique to create the charset and the animation, we will post any success (or fail) here.

Hi Axl,

<off-topic>Thanks for your regular news. </off-topic>

Could you or i name the technique? (From inkscape, for instance?)

Best regards

Bertram wrote:Hi Axl,

<off-topic>Thanks for your regular news. </off-topic>

Could you or i name the technique? (From inkscape, for instance?)

Best regards

In order to get a good perspective we are going to use a real life model (I wanted a model girl but Iru said better not, just kidding ) using a wooden body for drawing and taking pictures of it, once we get the perspective we are going to outline it (with the respective variations to make it TMW style) and at the end pixel details.
The good thing I can see about this method (if can be called like that) is that we can even outline different positions and sequences in order to get the animations. may be.

But may be Iru can explain better the details.

A new try, before we start working on the wooden figure, just to keep the flow and try to find something nice to the eye,
This not the only try I've done, but this is somehow decent compared with the failures I've been having.

HI Axl,

Once we come to an agreement about at least the idle down character position, I'll add it in the dev server.

Keep it up

Best regards.

Bertram wrote:HI Axl,

Once we come to an agreement about at least the idle down character position, I'll add it in the dev server.

Keep it up

Best regards.

Thanks Bertram.

Up to now I have no opinions in regards of any of the concepts, so I'll keep posting until some feedback comes.

BTW here is a new one based on the previous : >>transparency>> is a bit higher than the required size. but is just a concept

Edit: When I resize to the proper measurement I have this : I feel like the proportion and somehow the perspective are ok, also the space for movements like stepping back to attack, kicking even attacking is good, but once again no room for much facial expression.

If nobody say a word about this concept2 I'll moving forward looking for a more manga/toon style.

Hi,

If nobody say a word about this concept2 I'll moving forward looking for a more manga/toon style.

-> I'm personally ok with the more manga/toon style.

Best regards.

@Bertram, thanks, I'll try to change the approach to a more manga style.

So I took this one >> >> as a base for the new concept.

I'll post the xcf file on the repository so anyone can use it, modify or whatever. http://www.axltrozz.com/tmw/images/

Edit: some color :

the legs are about double as long as they should be.

Crush wrote:the legs are about double as long as they should be.

Ok, I'm working on the shape, trying to shorten a bit.

I'll keep the image progress updated so you can check it here, also Ill keep different layers so you can see the steps I followed to complete the char http://www.axltrozz.com/tmw/images/pbody018.gif
http://www.axltrozz.com/tmw/images/pbody018.xcf

or here >> >>and female >>

Been trying bottom-heavy segments. I guess because as we look downward, what we see accumulates.