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Re: forest tileset

Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 15:54
by Len
niels.ellegaard wrote:Ah, now I get it. Perhaps it would become easier to see if the tree started to blur a little closer to the ground or if the blurry part continued upwards little longer. I think that Crush's tree in the following thread is easier to understand: http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopic.php?t=1973.
Perhaps you are correct it might be more effective to just decrease the Opacity (Rather than blur them) as the trees go higher. It might also help reinforce the idea if we included some thinner leafless tree trunks like in this image along side the older ones, and have them both start vanishing at the same height.
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Anyway, I will stop here. Good luck with the tileset. It looks great.
You needn't stop your observations are appreciated (even if I do get snippy from time to time)

Re: forest tileset

Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 16:12
by Shaggy
It looks to me from the above picture, that the bottom trees are holding up the upper level (like if a roof had grass growing from it).

Re: forest tileset

Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 16:27
by Len
Shaggy wrote:It looks to me from the above picture, that the bottom trees are holding up the upper level (like if a roof had grass growing from it).
:roll: *smacks shaggy* :roll:

Re: forest tileset

Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 16:38
by Shaggy
If my observations, which were meant in good faith, meet with violence, I wonder why I bother.

Re: forest tileset

Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 17:01
by Len
Shaggy wrote:If my observations, which were meant in good faith, meet with violence, I wonder why I bother.
I was joking, and that image is not part of the forest tileset (its being used as an example)
So your pointing out the optical illusion was kind of pointless and for that I smack you :lol:
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Re: forest tileset

Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 10:13
by niels.ellegaard
Len wrote:
niels.ellegaard wrote:Ah, now I get it. Perhaps it would become easier to see if the tree started to blur a little closer to the ground or if the blurry part continued upwards little longer. I think that Crush's tree in the following thread is easier to understand: http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopic.php?t=1973.
Perhaps you are correct it might be more effective to just decrease the Opacity (Rather than blur them) as the trees go higher. It might also help reinforce the idea if we included some thinner leafless tree trunks like in this image along side the older ones, and have them both start vanishing at the same height.
In this last version it is easy to see what s going on. I like the way that the texture of the trunk continues into the opaque region.

By the way, is it possible to place those trees (or similar ones) so close that they block the way for the players? (I haven't tried, but I have a feeling that it will look somewhat griddy.)

Re: forest tileset

Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 15:10
by Jaxad0127
niels.ellegaard wrote:By the way, is it possible to place those trees (or similar ones) so close that they block the way for the players? (I haven't tried, but I have a feeling that it will look somewhat griddy.)
Using other plants and rocks as part of the barrier would help that.

Re: forest tileset

Posted: 28 Jul 2008, 14:08
by Modanung
Yea, that tileset was more a quick test tileset for big isometric tiles.
And that's a bad example image of it. :)

Re: forest tileset

Posted: 30 Jul 2008, 23:18
by Len
Despite my best attempts to get everything done by today, I’ve failed…

* I did however slightly improve the look of the cliff
* And started developing water tiles http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1621/water777es8.png (although I haven’t decided upon anything yet)
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Re: forest tileset

Posted: 31 Jul 2008, 19:18
by Insert Name Here
This may seem like a completely pointless observation, but shouldn't the rock's shadows go \ that way rather than / that way? I.E towards us.

Re: forest tileset

Posted: 31 Jul 2008, 20:58
by yosuhara
Insert Name Here wrote:This may seem like a completely pointless observation, but shouldn't the rock's shadows go \ that way rather than / that way? I.E towards us.
no... light in tmw comes from south-west so "/ direction" is right :)

Re: forest tileset

Posted: 31 Jul 2008, 23:34
by Jetryl
:D That water looks really nice.

:? I've poked at making pillars/trees "fade into nothingness" as well, but I'm a little mixed about it. I don't think it really solves the issues with them being tall objects that obstruct things. The idea solution would be some sort of "make stuff partly transparent on the fly" algorithm, like diablo had.

Re: forest tileset

Posted: 31 Jul 2008, 23:37
by Rotonen
Jetryl wrote:The ideal solution would be some sort of "make stuff partly transparent on the fly" algorithm, like diablo had.
For simple fairness/pvp/combat reasons that would be a nice solution in any case for our game.

Tech devs to the rescue?

Re: forest tileset

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 00:19
by Jaxad0127
Rotonen wrote:
Jetryl wrote:The ideal solution would be some sort of "make stuff partly transparent on the fly" algorithm, like diablo had.
For simple fairness/pvp/combat reasons that would be a nice solution in any case for our game.

Tech devs to the rescue?
We could draw stuff again with some opacity after the overlayer.

Re: forest tileset

Posted: 06 Aug 2008, 21:18
by Saphy
Now that I have time again, I will resume my the thorn tile.

Since the previous one is no good, I am sketching the basic shape of the proposed thorns plants:

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Are we going with plant at the bottom left? Somehow, they just don't look very attractive.

Also if we are going to programatically fade out tiles, should I finish up the top part of the big tree?