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You don't really seem to make any progress. Maybe you should first practice with basic shapes before you start with more complex shapes like your helmet.

A helmet is almost a spherical object. This is how a sphere should be shaded:


How about trying to shade a sphere like that yourself and then try to transfer the experiences you make from that to your helm?

that's a bit tough for me see for my light source i just put in white and use gimps smudge tool for that what should i do?

Here is a terribly made but useable way to show you what direction the light is coming from in TMW, unless I am incorrect.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb31 ... source.jpg

Also, smudge isn't a good pixelating tool. Try manually dithering the helm, as you can clearly see in Crush's post, it makes it look more spherical.

kk ill try i hope this doesnt look to bad

this is my new version i hope u guys will accept this 1 xD

You still did not understand the concept of shading. Where is the sphere you made?

Bankai777:
Those helmets are too dark.
Maybe try something like this:

Crush wrote:You still did not understand the concept of shading. Where is the sphere you made?

well im kinda to lazy hehe so i tried to find a shortcut for the lighting/shading hehe

i wrote:Bankai777:
Those helmets are too dark.
Maybe try something like this:

dark_knights_helm-REDO.png

preview.png

well what i wanted was something black for a change im tired of the lighter colors, but that could be a royal knights helm

BLACK doesn't exists in real life. BLACK is just an absence of light. So using dark colours instead pure black to present "blackness" of this helm is more adequate. Bankai777 remember that we can not make an item total different than environment and surrounding world. Objects can not be too much saturated because they will be stand off from other parts of game.

most people will use it in the caves i mean who has a helm but wont train in a cave?

You cannot decide what or where a player where use your item. Plus the cave will make it darker anyway.

true ive noticed the items are getting darker anyway like the wrlord and the tp hate etc i dont see why the color is so outa line

Yes but they are not completely black. Like i said. Black means there is absolutely no color present. It is impossible to make something truly black in real life. Meaning that you must lighten it to a gray or perhaps even dark grey(Just not to dark) or perhaps not even use grayscale, perhaps change the hue a bit and make it a bit blue or purple. I have found dark shades of those colors are good for portraying black.

Mixing a tiny bit of color into shades of gray is usually a good thing to do. 0% saturation should be avoided in the same way 100% saturation should be avoided.

Blue and cyan are usually good choices for metal.

its not all black only the edges are
the rest is dark grey