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Minus the fact that I forgot to save it with some freaking alpha transparency turned on, so there's white crap around it:

I'm going to have to rethink the textureing, stance, walking, and attack, after reading your posts, but I was going for the possibility of the sprite to wear regular player equipment (where it can't be picked up as a drop of course).

Imagine if a zombie map auto spawned a zombie wearing the same gear as fallen player on that map (but just imagine, because that would probably be a complete PITA).

Basing the animation of an undead monster on the playerset is not a good idea, in my opinion. A reanimated corpse should move a lot more stiffly than a living character.

+1,
example: arms stretched out while walking, perhaps one of their legs is being dragged behind, stuff like that
Skin looks right, pants could perhaps be a bit more ragged?
great work though, keep it up

maybe make 1 arm showing the bones? like to show that he was in decomposition? (dont know if i write well decomposition. sorry)

peace

edit: and watching from the sides, seems a living player to me. maybe the skin should be a little more dark? like the colour of the right/left side of the head but not that much.

Okay... so Freeyorp pointed out that in my infinite lack of caffeine, I've inadvertently traced over the outer pixles in black when I tried making it into the gif. I made the skin darker, made the pants more tattered, and the walk more clumsy and stylized. Besides the black outline, and the fact that he looks a bit yellow, any call outs so far?



It's impossible to tell with it walking up stage, but he's actually dragging a bloody right leg behind him (which when walking right or left, you would see it making a semi transparent streak.

I like it alot, the black outline doesn't even stand out that much

Try softening the outline with a yellowish colour

There is also a frame with the overlay of two heads' outlines, it should be fixed

Nitpickery aside and concentrating on the main aspects:

I love the animation. Especially how the head is about to fall off by its own weight and just barely manages to wobble through the walk cycle. You've also grasped the point of cutting different parts of the body and moving them individually of each other instead of being arsed to individually re-pixel stuff infinitely.

http://www.roempire.com/database/?page= ... w&mid=1015

It actually even reminded me of the RO zombie somehow.

Welcome aboard.

The nitpickery is usually valid, but should only be applied after you finish the main aspects and are happy about the result. The exception to this of course is situations where the nitpickery is going to lead into repixeling the object in question.

People, don't burden our artists with too much. And fixing outlining and cleaning up the spritesheets are tasks you are capable of doing yourself too, so why not just post a fixed spritesheet directly instead of just demanding more from the original author? When it comes to graphics, it's easier to show than to describe. We should evolve our workflow more into the direction of talking through pictures.

Rotonen wrote:Nitpickery aside and concentrating on the main aspects:
People, don't burden our artists with too much. And fixing outlining and cleaning up the spritesheets are tasks you are capable of doing yourself too, so why not just post a fixed spritesheet directly instead of just demanding more from the original author? When it comes to graphics, it's easier to show than to describe. We should evolve our workflow more into the direction of talking through pictures.

Just giving a hint. Unfortunatly I don't have Gimp on my PDA (with which I'm reading) ;D

I appreciate it the nitpickery disclaimer! I honestly don't mind pickiness though, it's better to get feedback and suggestions before knocking through a whole lot of frames so I won't have to cry about scrapping a whole set.
I'll try and finish up when I get off work so I can see if having the zombie drag a bloody right looks too goofy. Now's the time to let me know about zombie variations btw... i.e. legless zombies crawling around with their arms, zombie warriors, pirate zombies... that kinda stuff! (heck, I haven't thought about the the death animation either!? Maybe ignite into a blue fire with cinders? I dunno.)

Fother J wrote:legless zombies crawling around with their arms

Please don't overdo the gore. TMW is not a survival horror game.

Awww, no zombie Moubous then? Grains! Grraaains!
LOL.

Besides, my lack of an attention span has prevented me from touching this sprite all day. I only managed to touch up the border and add an attack animation (and only for the south facing direction)

Brilliant. Especially the teeth.

AFAIK you're currently the fastest working artist on the team.

Alright, here's the preview image (keep in mind that I've already removed some of the spare white pixels from the sprite sheet, but didn't feel like remaking the preview a 2nd time).


And here's the sprite sheet:


Please let me know your concerns/feedback in case I need to change more on it.
And yes I borrowed a frame from the skulls... everybody likes consistency.

The head looks very blurry in some frames. Did you use automatic rotation?