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The Skeletons would probably standout best in the desert

Haay gave me some suggestions to improve the sword attack swing on IRC. Here's what it would look like walking south in the desert, and attack me.

I do not want to sit there, that skeleton is way to sneaky . The swordattack animation is a huge improvement.

The attack looks really good. But there is something wrong with the shoulders and upper arms in the walk animation. They look stiff.

By the way: When we put this ingame we will get outlawed in China because the Chinese censors have something against human skeletons in games. But dont worry, it's not like we should care. When we avoid the taboos of every single culture in the world there is not much we can depict anymore.

Attack animation reminds me one from Hero of Allacrost. But AFAIR HoA is under GPL. So indeed, its a huge improvement. My girlfriend said that leg movement "looks quite gay" :D Maybe you should change it a bit.
IMO also black outlines could be a bit lighter - contrast is too high.

LOL, that's the animation that Haay suggested I refer to for the animation. I didn't make any frame copying or mirroring. It's just a good one to reference!

And also...

i wrote:My girlfriend said that leg movement "looks quite gay"

Really? In what way is a particular movement "gay"?

Fother J wrote:LOL, that's the animation that Haay suggested I refer to for the animation. I didn't make any frame copying or mirroring. It's just a good one to reference!

I wasn't suggesting coping, but only source of inspiration.

Fother J wrote:And also...

i wrote:My girlfriend said that leg movement "looks quite gay"

Really? In what way is a particular movement "gay"?

Leg stands too much to inside. It looks really funny and of course somehow "gay". Maybe skeleton could be painted pink ;D

No problem, I knew you weren't saying I copied , but I had to put that clarification out there just in case.

Bottom line on the other comment, there was a much better, non derogatory/offensive way that could've been said. Gay is not an adjective for stupid, silly, clumsy, frilly, funny, or effeminate. RFC 1855 is all i ask. Now I'm off topic.

it seems like the skull is made out of a different material. Not just teh difference in color, but also difference in detail, smoothness, dimension.

5t3v3 wrote:it seems like the skull is made out of a different material. Not just teh difference in color, but also difference in detail, smoothness, dimension.

I agree...
It might be best to make them larger and add slightly more detailed (its hard working with 1 or 2 pixels)

5t3v3 wrote:it seems like the skull is made out of a different material. Not just teh difference in color, but also difference in detail, smoothness, dimension.

That's what they said about the Brontosaurus!



Hmmm... brontosaurus sprite, I wonder...

I really like this. Some things that might help is that you could drop the shoulder joint by one or two pixels so the rib cage does not look so square. The other advice I can give is, after doing a couple of pants now for the player sprite, the thigh of the leg should stay fairly constant in size and make the shins shorter and longer makes for a better looking walking animation.

Black Don wrote:Some things that might help is that you could drop the shoulder joint by one or two pixels so the rib cage does not look so square.

The shoulders do look better dropped down, though the reason they were up (and this is difficult to tell from the south or north facing frames) is that the skeleton's spine is bowed and it's slouching slightly foward, in addition to it's legs being bowed and arms being positioned forward to the sides for a predator stance, which would square off it's shoulders in appearance at a 45 degree angle, but too boxy looking! I've also sharpened the rib cage a bit for 5t3v3 and Len to match the skull's shininess a bit. I know there were some questions of proportion to the existing player sprites, so I added that in for comparison... but everyone please keep in mind that I stuck with the existing skull for continuity... and for the possibility of having a variant skeleton that spawns a separate floating skull on death (as though the head popped off) for tmwserv. I don't think this is that noticeable, but if anyone wants to beef up the skull slightly or give a whack to some accessory skull frames that keep the look of the skull but are unique to the skeleton, please post 'em!

I have to go back and redo 13 frames now (that's just for the south walk and attack animations + stand)
Any final suggestions or changes for the south position before I consider this direction final and move on to the east-west frames? (of which the example E-W above is still in the works, since i have to make the arms stand out from the torso with a shadow and some lighting differences).

This Skeleton would be good for the event on 31 October

Great work on the skeleton Fother J. I added my own tweak to it and gave it some color. Like you said, just helping out a neighbor


Sorry for the white background.. I was too lazy to open gimp..