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Re: Graveyard Tombstones

Posted: 11 Jun 2009, 21:17
by Crush
I took the gravestones by Yosuhara plus the two engraved stones from Woodland_ground and changed their color palette to a cold grey to contrast with the warm grey from the walls.

Re: Graveyard Tombstones

Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 09:29
by Pandemonium
It look alright....
1 or 2 tiles of grass in front of the stones wouldn't be to bad, eh? That is unless in TMW we put our dead vertical under the stone...

I really feel the wood_land stones fit the game so much better (they are the small rounded ones, correct?).... maybe we could fashion up some taller ones... with more writings on them.

I'll try to have something to show in a few days... or sooner perhaps.


Pan

PS: the wall tiles are not finished, are they?

Re: Graveyard Tombstones

Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 10:06
by Enchilado!
Heheh, Pandemonium - I was thinking the same thing myself about the walls. They don't quite fit in - yet, I hope. They look good, but not if they're a finished product. It is true, though - the old woodland stones just look so much better! Who drew those?
Also, the dead aren't buried standing up! They're the graves of soldiers who died in the Great War of Bombs in '86.
That's not the finished design of the graveyard, is it? Is it? Is it!?

~better look nice once it's done...
Enchilado

Re: Graveyard Tombstones

Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 12:44
by Crush
Can you please be a bit more specific regarding what the wall tiles are missing?

Re: Graveyard Tombstones

Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 15:23
by tomminator
the walls look brand new, they need cracks and pieces broken of.

also i think they should not be made from one piece. most walls are made from stones put on each other.

just my 2 cents

Re: Graveyard Tombstones

Posted: 14 Jun 2009, 07:58
by Pandemonium
oops.. I redirected the thread...
I've made my comment in the other tread...
http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopi ... 762#p57762


I've made an attempt at recreating the look of the wood_land stones but my initial design has poor angle and the coloring and shading is way off...

Re: Graveyard Tombstones

Posted: 14 Jun 2009, 11:30
by Pandemonium
First off i want to note that the File I used to draw my headstone on, was called 'Curltree' It had the characters and the background I was looking for for a size reference. I want to give props to the Original Artist who made the file... But I dunno who made it Just found it through some random link swimming...
Big Thanks just the same!


So now for the Headstone. It is modeled to look as close to the woodland rocks as i could, By using the same colors I think I got it about right.
The arch shape is to get away from the boringness of the normal head stones and it has the right feel for the rest of the art IMO... Its a tad whimsical but still to the point.

Once I get this one just right different shapes and sizes will easy.
Feed back welcome! :)
Pan

Re: Graveyard Tombstones

Posted: 14 Jun 2009, 23:07
by Pandemonium
I canned the last one...

I did bring some more drafts though.
Headstone2REV10.jpg
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Re: Graveyard Tombstones

Posted: 15 Jun 2009, 03:23
by meway
the bottom rite one looks like a foot i don't really like the original shape of a baseball diamond its kind of lame and like the ones that already existed although these are much better than those im talking about. your art is done very well on a good note btw.

Re: Graveyard Tombstones

Posted: 15 Jun 2009, 08:07
by EJlol
1. its a .jpg and .jpg sucks for pixelart, please save it as a .png
2. we don't want any existing religious symbols ingame.

Re: Graveyard Tombstones

Posted: 15 Jun 2009, 09:44
by Pandemonium
meway wrote:the bottom rite one looks like a foot i don't really like the original shape of a baseball diamond its kind of lame and like the ones that already existed although these are much better than those im talking about. your art is done very well on a good note btw.
Dam it does look like a foot... that is a fancy Headstone, probably to big anyhow.
So you like the stone ones just not the foot and baseball diamond ones?

EJlol wrote:1. its a .jpg and .jpg sucks for pixelart, please save it as a .png
2. we don't want any existing religious symbols ingame.
1. A jpg is fine for showing drafts. for later drafts I'll make a point to make it a png just for you ;)
2. there are only 2 religious symbols both are crosses... both made of wood... I highly doubt they would put wood in the graveyard... I just made them to practice... What about the other ones?

Re: Graveyard Tombstones

Posted: 15 Jun 2009, 10:37
by EJlol
Practice is always good. anyway, I can't give much comments about the other ones because the .jpg makes it a really bad quality.

Re: Graveyard Tombstones

Posted: 15 Jun 2009, 16:49
by John P
They are too blurred with the grass. They might even appear as though they are laying down. Also there is no interaction with grass at the base. The stones should be darker, too, to match the current set. Try placing yours along side those to compare. Just some notes, and who knows it could be a jpg thing.

About the overall shapes and design: I like the top right one the most. If the bottom were squared to the ground and edited in the above ways, I would think it ideal.

Also, in my opinion, lose the RIP cliche.

Its good work though, you are talented keep working. Also I will now always associate you with the guy standing on the other guys head, both sporting Beatles haircuts. Great acrobatics.

Re: Graveyard Tombstones

Posted: 15 Jun 2009, 18:20
by Pandemonium
John P wrote:They are too blurred with the grass. They might even appear as though they are laying down. Also there is no interaction with grass at the base. The stones should be darker, too, to match the current set. Try placing yours along side those to compare. Just some notes, and who knows it could be a jpg thing.

About the overall shapes and design: I like the top right one the most. If the bottom were squared to the ground and edited in the above ways, I would think it ideal.

Also, in my opinion, lose the RIP cliche.

Its good work though, you are talented keep working. Also I will now always associate you with the guy standing on the other guys head, both sporting Beatles haircuts. Great acrobatics.

That character part was from the 'Curltree' file I found. I use it for size reference, Its not of my making... but the headstones are.

So more defined outline, some work on prospective... lose the RIP...

To replace the RIP, what about the TMW logo mentioned earlier in the thread?

I think adding grass and a defining the outline will make them pop up a bit more, witch will help the prospective.
The over grown grass color is something I'm worried about... if i use the same colors in the grass the shading can get lost and thus a loss of prospective... Any ideas or thoughts?

Thanks for the feedback
Pan

Re: Graveyard Tombstones

Posted: 16 Jun 2009, 13:10
by octalot
Pandemonium wrote:First off i want to note that the File I used to draw my headstone on, was called 'Curltree' It had the characters and the background I was looking for for a size reference. I want to give props to the Original Artist who made the file... But I dunno who made it Just found it through some random link swimming...
It's by Modanung.