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Re: [WIP] New Apple

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 18:46
by Kage
Inkweaver wrote:I agree that the one we have needs replacement, because it is orange, not red, but I don't think that green is the way to go.
The main issue with our current apple is the shading

Re: [WIP] New Apple

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 19:25
by kr0n05931
Peavey wanted this one:

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The pixel monkey can't do his job if he keeps getting more than one specific opinion on the details, especially from the developers.

Reference:

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By the way people, THIS is an olive:

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Re: [WIP] New Apple

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 19:33
by Jaxad0127
kr0n05931 wrote:Image
The light in that is from the wrong direction. But it is a good shape reference.
kr0n05931 wrote:
apple-high-quality-redo.png
Flatten the sides.

Re: [WIP] New Apple

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 19:38
by kr0n05931
Until I get a concise answer, I'm not doing crap. The last image was almost the same as the first, but I was told to make it rounder and plumper like this:

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I made it like that because Jaxad said this:
11:27 < Jaxad0127> take an apple, position a camera at a 45 degree angle above it, light is from the right direction, take a picture
11:27 < Jaxad0127> adjust light, apple direction, etc, take another picture
11:27 < Jaxad0127> repeat
Then everyone said to make it red, so I got this:

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Then Turmfalke says feces like this:
12:26 < turmfalke> so you want to replace the good looking old apple with a new ugly tomato cause its perspective is not the same as a building?
Afterwards, peavey says this:
12:28 < turmfalke> yes I know, the apple is client side so I can still use the old
12:29 < peavey> I know its supposed to be an apple because the file is named apple.. else I would have guessed tomato or blood orange.
12:29 < peavey> its too spherical
So I got this:

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I don't know how hard this is to understand, but this:

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Is not this:

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But is actually this:

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Seriously, you guys need your eyes checked. :?

EDIT - Consider this a forced resignation, I quit.

Re: [WIP] New Apple

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 19:44
by peavey
I was thinking something like this, and this is just a draft because I can't pixel!
apple-high-quality-pv.png
apple try
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Re: [WIP] New Apple

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 19:48
by Jaxad0127
peavey wrote:I was thinking something like this, and this is just a draft because I can't pixel!
apple-high-quality-pv.png
Perspective?
kr0n05931 wrote:Image
Looking good to me.

Re: [WIP] New Apple

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 19:57
by peavey
yes I can't pixel as I said, it should be shaded to fool the eye as Don says, then the bottom can look 45 too.

Re: [WIP] New Apple

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 20:00
by kr0n05931
peavey wrote:yes I can't pixel as I said, it should be shaded to fool the eye as Don says, then the bottom can look 45 too.
It can't be. If you take an apple in real life and move it into a 45° angle, then the dimples on the bottom entirely disappear. The apple Len posted is close to a 45° angle.

Re: [WIP] New Apple

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 20:02
by Kage
kr0n05931 wrote:
peavey wrote:yes I can't pixel as I said, it should be shaded to fool the eye as Don says, then the bottom can look 45 too.
It can't be. If you take an apple in real life and move it into a 45° angle, then the dimples on the bottom entirely disappear. The apple Len posted is in a 45° angle.
Lets replace apples with Mana Fruit. So we can make it look how ever we damn well please.

Re: [WIP] New Apple

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 20:52
by John P
how about a manana

Re: [WIP] New Apple

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 21:20
by Black Don
I like both Image and Image you should make the stem longer so its not as easily confused for something else.

Re: [WIP] New Apple

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 22:02
by kr0n05931
Already 3 different ideas. :?

I redid this image multiple times, and got told back to go to essentially square one with the shape, that I had been previously told was unacceptable, and now I'm getting more requests for different ways.

The fact of the matter is that I get this message loud and clear: "Give him the run around so he gets frustrated and gives up."

Yeah, you can send some other pixel monkey on a wild goose chase.

Re: [WIP] New Apple

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 22:12
by peavey
Yeah I know it sucks, I was trying my shade idea and failed.
apple-high-quality-pv2.png
apple2
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Kr0n0s, we're all focused on whats best for the game not giving anybody a hard time. You don't have to do it, its not a job, you should work on things you ENJOY, if you don't enjoy this then just leave it and move on to something else.

Re: [WIP] New Apple

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 22:19
by Black Don
kr0n05931 wrote:Already 3 different ideas. :?

I redid this image multiple times, and got told back to go to essentially square one with the shape, that I had been previously told was unacceptable, and now I'm getting more requests for different ways.

The fact of the matter is that I get this message loud and clear: "Give him the run around so he gets frustrated and gives up."

Yeah, you can send some other pixel monkey on a wild goose chase.
The trick is who to listen too. Some people know what they are talking about and others are just noise to be filtered out. A good way of determining who to listen to is if they have content in the game or not.

Re: [WIP] New Apple

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 22:27
by kr0n05931
Black Don wrote:
kr0n05931 wrote:Already 3 different ideas. :?

I redid this image multiple times, and got told back to go to essentially square one with the shape, that I had been previously told was unacceptable, and now I'm getting more requests for different ways.

The fact of the matter is that I get this message loud and clear: "Give him the run around so he gets frustrated and gives up."

Yeah, you can send some other pixel monkey on a wild goose chase.
The trick is who to listen too. Some people know what they are talking about and others are just noise to be filtered out. A good way of determining who to listen to is if they have content in the game or not.
Jaxad on the IRC wrote: < Jaxad0127> Now it looks less like an apple.
Jaxad0127 wrote: Looking good to me.
Both were in reference to this image:

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Notice his attitude changed quite quickly when I quit. :x