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Len wrote:The starfish and the rocks work for me, but the log... I think you should play around with the color and sat (maybe even redo it), as it currently just doesn't fit with the rest of the set

Yep, working on the log...Thanks

a new version of the log,

still WIP but it seems to start matching together,
I'll add the dust floor tiles, so they can be mix and match this could be the palette, but still not sure

[Useless post but:]

AWESOME

We should decrease the saturation for all the tiles reused from eA (at least for background tiles), to obtain a palette color not as pastel as WoA, but less aggressive than eA.
Saphy's grass is awesome, but when a player walk on it, he seems fly over it, that's kill the depth effect. Maybe with the "Crush's tricks for high grass" with 2 layers...

One more thing (assuming it's WIP) please avoid mirroring the grass tiles, it's look really wired, and grid more visible.

Sorry for the "do this do that" post

small color fix,
tileset progress,

Nice to see basic ground tiling support. Once we have rudimentary ground tilling even somewhat done, the mappers can start prototyping layouts with them: just leaving transparent glitchy gaps for objects and walls and such on the map.

AxlTrozz: it is certainly a start toward making a nice beach set, but there are a lot of things about it which in my opinion aren't as good as they could be, and you may agree upon reading:

1) Grass depth. As IvanMorve noted, the character should walk through the grass, not over it; can you make some tiles for this? I don't know how it will work on manaserv though - does anyone know?

2) Texture of the sand. Or rather, no texture of the sand. It's flat and brown with a few spots on it, and doesn't look like sand. It might possibly work for the very wet sand down near the waves, but for further up the beach it certainly won't. That sand is dryer and is usually not flat, and is lighter in colour (and possibly doesn't have as many other colours in it).

Here I illustrate:
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/89898/dry_as_a_bone.jpg

That, IMO, would make a perfect beach for this.

3) Mirroring. This is a bad idea, and it should never be done with any tile, ever. In the long grass, every second row appears to be a vertically flipped version of the previous. This looks terrible and I don't understand why it was done...

I can also see that the shorter, yellower grass has some flipped corners, though. It doesn't take much longer to do a few different corners, and it looks heaps better. Here, I already made three and started some more:


4) The little ridges in the sand. I assume they're meant to make the sand look less flat, but the idea I mentioned above would work much better. These also stand out too much, and are too thin.

5) The colour of the long grass. It was far too green. I fixed it slightly in the image above, but IMO it's still not the right colour for beach grass.

~ poison_ivy

poison_ivy wrote:1) Grass depth. As IvanMorve noted, the character should walk through the grass, not over it; can you make some tiles for this? I don't know how it will work on manaserv though - does anyone know?

The graphic engine didn't change. Any visual map features which worked on athena also work on manaserv. Including oversized tiles.

Testing with the cliffs tiles,

Did yosuhara's log fit?

http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopi ... 0&start=60

Can't we use Len's sand as a base?
As far as I remember it seemed quite nice.

Hi,

If I remember correctly, the given sand is only the wet form.

Maybe later replacing it with some dry one with variations could also give a nice shot.

Best regards.

Hi everyone

@John P. I forgot to include Yosuhara's Log in the set, I'll do it asap, thanks.

@Elven Yes I'll try to include the grass/dust tiles from the forest tileset, that would be the next step, thanks.

@Bertram Yes, I did some test and seems to be going along nicely, I just need put everything together or at least all that I can fit in 256x256 tilesets, this sand tileset is only for the wet side, is darker and mostly flat you are right.


@Everyone, If we use a couple layers we can get really nice effects with the wet sand/dry sand/dust/grass, I consider we are almost ready for a couple serious mapping test.

Regards

AxlTrozz wrote:or at least all that I can fit in 256x256 tilesets

Multiple sets is fine too.