[LEGACY] Snakes/Scopions/Spiders should give more exp

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Increase exp?

Poll ended at 12 Nov 2019, 13:04

Don't change it
9
23%
+50% (250 + 125 = 375)
1
3%
+100% (250 + 250 = 500)
0
No votes
+200% (250 + 500 = 750)
25
64%
+300% (250 + 750 = 1000)
4
10%
 
Total votes: 39
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Re: [LEGACY] Snakes/Scopions/Spiders should give more exp

Post by WarriorPL » 04 Nov 2019, 05:32

I see Hello have 106 !!! how long ? 1 years ?
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Re: [LEGACY] Snakes/Scopions/Spiders should give more exp

Post by Livio » 09 Nov 2019, 00:13

Hello=) seems an old date player that never played with alts.
By the way what about making those beasts drops less chocolate?
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Re: [LEGACY] Snakes/Scopions/Spiders should give more exp

Post by Archios » 09 Nov 2019, 09:20

Livio wrote:
09 Nov 2019, 00:13
Hello=) seems an old date player that never played with alts.
By the way what about making those beasts drops less chocolate?
Yeah, why do they even drop Chocolate, I hope it's not what I have in mind :lol:
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Re: [LEGACY] Snakes/Scopions/Spiders should give more exp

Post by Livio » 09 Nov 2019, 09:48

Seriously who is going to eat sweets found on a dead scorpion?
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Re: [LEGACY] Snakes/Scopions/Spiders should give more exp

Post by Pawneeboy » 09 Nov 2019, 11:52

Yeah well...there is a urban legend (kinda) that states that there is bug parts in chocolate... :idea: :alt-2: :alt-1: :alt-6:
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Re: [LEGACY] Snakes/Scopions/Spiders should give more exp

Post by Livio » 09 Nov 2019, 12:04

Yeah! Lizards and mice in coke too!
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Re: [LEGACY] Snakes/Scopions/Spiders should give more exp

Post by Archios » 09 Nov 2019, 12:09

Pawneeboy wrote:
09 Nov 2019, 11:52
Yeah well...there is a urban legend (kinda) that states that there is bug parts in chocolate... :idea: :alt-2: :alt-1: :alt-6:
Some bugs might taste good, if cooked correctly 8)
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Re: [LEGACY] Snakes/Scopions/Spiders should give more exp

Post by Livio » 09 Nov 2019, 17:24

Archios wrote:
09 Nov 2019, 12:09
Some bugs might taste good, if cooked correctly 8)
That's why there are roasted maggots.
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Re: [LEGACY] Snakes/Scopions/Spiders should give more exp

Post by jesusalva » 19 Dec 2019, 02:34

Sockpuppeting criteria for this poll was as follows:

Zero posts - not counted. I know I've deleted at least one legit vote on this but I wanted to keep consistency.
Banned - not counted.

I thought in looking for IP sharing and etc., some were reeeeeeeally suspcious, but I decided to keep things simple, this is not a GM election to deserve so much spotlight.
Besides, the votes which could have been duplicate were the same as those I've thought to be legit and erased, so the final vote score is not expected to vary too much from what our standard check would have made.
PS. I did delete an unique vote, which however was considered on execution.

So, as follows:
Don't change it - 39%
Triple the amount - 48%
x4 the amount - 13%

METHOD 1, BY GROUP OF INTENT
(recommended)
Per group of intent method:
Don't change it - 39%
Change it - 61%

Required vote threshold to pass: 69%
POLL HAS NOT PASS

METHOD 2, BY COMPROMISE
(NOT recommended)
If we multiply the values, the "average" compromise, ignoring intention, would be:
+96% (double it)

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Neither group of intention managed to get the required 69% vote threshold.

There's majority support to increase the EXP.

However, we do have a problem. Experience is auto-generated.
This means the problem is not exactly with the experience of the monsters themselves, but with the exp formula, which may be understimating something...

...Actually, fixing the formula means doing a trip to TMWA. Forget it.
Poll pass with +100%, decision can be reverted in another poll as well.

I also took the freedom to limit how much extra EXP the Spider received because I don't like spiders spawn map. Black Scorpion also received a bit less.

Black Scorpion 253 → 500 (+98%)
Snake 361 → 722 (+100%)
Spider 348 → 690 (+98%)

I'm following roughly original purpose and the title.The following monsters were NOT changed:
* Other flavors/variants of scorpions, snakes, spiders, etc. (eg. Red Scorpion or Grass Snake)
* Other monsters over Lv 100, like Pink Flower, Evil Shrooms, Undead, etc.

If you disagree with how I've implemented this, please open another poll, also to run for 30 days.
Please keep in mind the decision to ignore the 69% vote requeriment was entirely upon me. The rule haven't changed, I merely did an exception this time and used an average, which is a discouraged course of action.
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Re: [LEGACY] Snakes/Scopions/Spiders should give more exp

Post by Povo » 20 Dec 2019, 06:23

I apologize in advance if this is not the correct place to post this.

The recent update to increase XP is great and I do believe that overall the compromise implemented was fair. Currently, normal snakes give out much more XP than mountain snakes and it may be worth discussing increasing the XP for mountain snakes as well.

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Re: [LEGACY] Snakes/Scopions/Spiders should give more exp

Post by WildX » 23 Dec 2019, 22:48

I agree. I would use this change as a way to make the snake pit in Tonori a viable place to level up again. Mountain Snakes and Grass Snakes should be a bit stronger and reward more exp than regular snekkos.
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Re: [LEGACY] Snakes/Scopions/Spiders should give more exp

Post by jesusalva » 24 Dec 2019, 00:43

WildX wrote:
23 Dec 2019, 22:48
I agree. I would use this change as a way to make the snake pit in Tonori a viable place to level up again. Mountain Snakes and Grass Snakes should be a bit stronger and reward more exp than regular snekkos.
I'll get to it soon™

Everyone knows "soon™" means "unspecified amount of time but it is on my TODO list", right? :alt-7:
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Re: [LEGACY] Snakes/Scopions/Spiders should give more exp

Post by Livio » 24 Dec 2019, 11:38

WildX wrote:
23 Dec 2019, 22:48
I agree. I would use this change as a way to make the snake pit in Tonori a viable place to level up again. Mountain Snakes and Grass Snakes should be a bit stronger and reward more exp than regular snekkos.
"Snekko"! I like this name!
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