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Re: Monetizing TMW
Instead of DEV it should say some abrevation for Contributor. (CON isn't the best choice though )
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Re: Monetizing TMW
If we're turning this into TMW 700 club, I better get a tote bag.
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hmm...well there is a shirt printing store near my house somewhere. I wouldnt mind getting some shirts printed with the mana world logo on it if this idea is approved. Maybe for a test drive?
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When you do the order management, printing, shipping, payment processing and bookkeeping, you will have much more work with that than it would be worth.Chicka-Maria wrote:hmm...well there is a shirt printing store near my house somewhere. I wouldnt mind getting some shirts printed with the mana world logo on it if this idea is approved. Maybe for a test drive?
But there are websites where you can just provide your designs and they do the rest: they offer it in their webshop, produce the merchandise, ship it and do the payment processing. A lot of webcomic authors use such services to make some money off of their brands. Unfortunately I couldn't find one quickly which isn't specialized on webcomics.
Speaking of brands: when we want to sell merchandise, we should register the trademark. But that's not free either.
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Ah i was thinking of this place cause they have a decent reputation and its about 10 minutes away. http://www.logomagik.com/index.aspCrush wrote:When you do the order management, printing, shipping, payment processing and bookkeeping, you will have much more work with that than it would be worth.Chicka-Maria wrote:hmm...well there is a shirt printing store near my house somewhere. I wouldnt mind getting some shirts printed with the mana world logo on it if this idea is approved. Maybe for a test drive?
But there are websites where you can just provide your designs and they do the rest: they offer it in their webshop, produce the merchandise, ship it and do the payment processing. A lot of webcomic authors use such services to make some money off of their brands. Unfortunately I couldn't find one quickly which isn't specialized on webcomics.
Speaking of brands: when we want to sell merchandise, we should register the trademark. But that's not free either.
You pretty much just send them the art or logo you want on the shirt and the sizes and pick it up. But i see where your coming from when it consists of work.
Edit: online shipping and such you suggested would be nice and more convenient as well so it wouldn't be just one person dealing with it but at least 3 trusted people.
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I originally meant it as an in-game item unique to people that donate
But for a t-shirt or something, you can look at http://www.spreadshirt.com/ which is what SliTaz is using at the moment (https://slitaz.spreadshirt.net/)
But for a t-shirt or something, you can look at http://www.spreadshirt.com/ which is what SliTaz is using at the moment (https://slitaz.spreadshirt.net/)
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then again its giving someone in game not everybody else can have. Would be better if it was something rather than an ingame item only people who pay can get.Try-zar wrote:I originally meant it as an in-game item unique to people that donate
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William James wrote:Act as If what you do make's a difference, because It does.
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It can be a completely useless item with zero stats. It may even be a special quest, event or just an announce saying their nickname and amount. It's just a way of saying thanks for donating. We just need to give people a small incentive and reward for donating.
For an RL item, we can give them something for every X amount donated.
For an RL item, we can give them something for every X amount donated.
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Try-zar wrote:It can be a completely useless item.
Until the collectors want it and others then we will have to say "donate money to get it".
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I see no downside to thatChicka-Maria wrote:Until the collectors want it and others then we will have to say "donate money to get it".Try-zar wrote:It can be a completely useless item.
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I'm completely against real money for ingame benefits, be it items or more exp or whatever. Something like that would divide the player community in 'Premium Players' who pay money, and the others. I don't like that concept at all.
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But many others do. It wouldn't be a completely free game in that case as said before.Try-zar wrote:I see no downside to thatChicka-Maria wrote:Until the collectors want it and others then we will have to say "donate money to get it".Try-zar wrote:It can be a completely useless item.
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William James wrote:Act as If what you do make's a difference, because It does.
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Chicka-Maria: So you're saying creating a zero stats item to reward people nice enough to donate even a small amount shouldn't be implemented because some people might not like it?
We have insanely expensive (in-game) items that no new player will ever be able to afford. That's also unfair and people do complain about it. Yet we do still have those. So I'll say Hell Yes to creating donation incentives being "unfair". But it's something that, unlike the insanely expensive in-game items, somebody can get by giving as little as $1. Further more, I will never be able to do so because I do not have access to paypal. And you know what? I'm perfectly fine with rewarding those kind enough to keep our project going.
Jenalya: There is a distinct difference between commercializing a game (as in making paid registrations) and creating voluntary donations incentives by rewarding people for their kindness. I'm just suggesting the latter.
We have insanely expensive (in-game) items that no new player will ever be able to afford. That's also unfair and people do complain about it. Yet we do still have those. So I'll say Hell Yes to creating donation incentives being "unfair". But it's something that, unlike the insanely expensive in-game items, somebody can get by giving as little as $1. Further more, I will never be able to do so because I do not have access to paypal. And you know what? I'm perfectly fine with rewarding those kind enough to keep our project going.
Jenalya: There is a distinct difference between commercializing a game (as in making paid registrations) and creating voluntary donations incentives by rewarding people for their kindness. I'm just suggesting the latter.
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Im saying this game is supose to stay free, and content being given to another player (items) for giving money would ruin the reputation because they would be getting an item for paying money...Try-zar wrote:Chicka-Maria: So you're saying creating a zero stats item to reward people nice enough to donate even a small amount shouldn't be implemented because some people might not like it?
We have insanely expensive (in-game) items that no new player will ever be able to afford. That's also unfair and people do complain about it. Yet we do still have those. So I'll say Hell Yes to creating donation incentives being "unfair". But it's something that, unlike the insanely expensive in-game items, somebody can get by giving as little as $1. Further more, I will never be able to do so because I do not have access to paypal. And you know what? I'm perfectly fine with rewarding those kind enough to keep our project going.
Jenalya: There is a distinct difference between commercializing a game (as in making paid registrations) and creating voluntary donations incentives by rewarding people for their kindness. I'm just suggesting the latter.
2nd of all the hats at the exotic trader are sold for a money sink to reduce the amount of money thats in the mana world. a lot of people were forced to buy these things to help the games economy. Also platyna hosts a trivia once in a while (rarely) and gives out those hats as well.
If we started selling ingame items and such to players it would not be a Completely free mmorpg which most people like about this game to begin with.
im sorry you don't understand why some people do not want this.
+1Jenalya wrote:I'm completely against real money for ingame benefits, be it items or more exp or whatever. Something like that would divide the player community in 'Premium Players' who pay money, and the others. I don't like that concept at all.
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*sigh* I try make a helpful suggestion and I get made out to sound like I'm being an ass for doing so.
Donation incentives are just that: Incentives to help increase voluntary donations. It can be anything from in-game items, RL items, a mention on the main site or even just a Thank you Global Notice in-game. It can even be a mix of more than one of those. If I'm so terrible for suggesting some kind of gratitude for people giving a little money, then please delete my character because I must clearly be the devil.
Donation incentives are just that: Incentives to help increase voluntary donations. It can be anything from in-game items, RL items, a mention on the main site or even just a Thank you Global Notice in-game. It can even be a mix of more than one of those. If I'm so terrible for suggesting some kind of gratitude for people giving a little money, then please delete my character because I must clearly be the devil.