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have neko in tulimshar sell some kind of shorts and/or skirt

Posted: 05 Jan 2013, 23:04
by bell chick
i know inar in the second marketplace carries shorts but many newbies dont know this yet,. its less a deal to the guys with the boxers but a lot of us girls when we are new had to run around in the thong for a while. i think i was in mine for two days and had the leather shirt and a hat long before i had pants. just seemes like a minor thing that could help the newbs feel more normal

Re: have neko in tulimshar sell some kind of shorts and/or s

Posted: 06 Jan 2013, 01:41
by eiseras
bell chick wrote:us girls when we are new had to run around in the thong for a while.
Yeah. I thought that it was perhaps a hazing thing, you have to earn your pants. My main goal at the beginning of the game was to buy pants. I spent my first 1000GP on shorts.

But guys get boxer shorts that are about the length of normal shorts, don't they?* At least they could have y fronts... (in terms of fairness or whatever).

*A serious question, I'm not totally sure xD

Re: have neko in tulimshar sell some kind of shorts and/or s

Posted: 06 Jan 2013, 01:42
by Crush
I think maybe new characters should spawn with both pants and shirts so that they look more modest.

Re: have neko in tulimshar sell some kind of shorts and/or s

Posted: 06 Jan 2013, 05:43
by bell chick
Crush wrote:I think maybe new characters should spawn with both pants and shirts so that they look more modest.
well it fits the story line that you're robbed of everything which is why characters are spawned as they are but the old lady who first greets you could give shorts as well as that first cotton shirt. but my idea wasnt to make the pants easier to get for newbies just make them easier to find.

Re: have neko in tulimshar sell some kind of shorts and/or s

Posted: 06 Jan 2013, 15:40
by Jenalya
If Sorfina would give out the shorts together with the shirt at the beginning, we'd have to consider balancing effects and change it's value.
But adding the shorts to Neko's shop doesn't hurt any balancing, since it's already available for the same price at the market in North Tulimshar. So I did that: https://github.com/themanaworld/tmwa-se ... eaecef0be8

It'll become active with the next restart. Thanks for the suggestion. :)

Re: have neko in tulimshar sell some kind of shorts and/or s

Posted: 06 Jan 2013, 16:35
by Crush
Jenalya wrote:If Sorfina would give out the shorts together with the shirt at the beginning, we'd have to consider balancing effects and change it's value.
How about adding a "newbie shorts" which looks like the regular one but has 0 def? That wouldn't affect balance at all.

Re: have neko in tulimshar sell some kind of shorts and/or s

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 17:10
by o11c
eiseras wrote:
bell chick wrote:us girls when we are new had to run around in the thong for a while.
Yeah. I thought that it was perhaps a hazing thing, you have to earn your pants. My main goal at the beginning of the game was to buy pants. I spent my first 1000GP on shorts.

But guys get boxer shorts that are about the length of normal shorts, don't they?* At least they could have y fronts... (in terms of fairness or whatever).
The boxers are a bit shorter.

But, girls get a top ...

Re: have neko in tulimshar sell some kind of shorts and/or s

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 19:25
by tux9th
I would agree to Crush's proposal to give out shorts with no defence.
Is there any reasonable argument besides "having girls running around naked is awesome" against giving out shorts as well?

Re: have neko in tulimshar sell some kind of shorts and/or s

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 20:51
by Jenalya
New players will get Ragged Shorts at the tutorial after the next restart. :)
Thanks for the suggestions.
https://github.com/themanaworld/tmwa-se ... 456102baf7
https://github.com/themanaworld/tmwa-se ... e598c971bd

Re: have neko in tulimshar sell some kind of shorts and/or s

Posted: 08 Jan 2013, 01:04
by eiseras
o11c wrote:
The boxers are a bit shorter.

But, girls get a top ...
Oh, I didn't know guys don't get tops. I suppose they should be given a shirt as well then?

Re: have neko in tulimshar sell some kind of shorts and/or s

Posted: 08 Jan 2013, 07:09
by tux9th
guys get tops just the same :)