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TMW Ring Changes and questions about past updates

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ok ty for the meeting yesterday

I have notice that the simple ring from the guy who do terratine is now move to the girl who do expensive ring : its great.
BUT in game we can have 2 rings from the quest. Can i say only?
So can you do the simple ring quest reloadable?
I explain. there is : saphir (+1 int), topaz (+1agi), amethyst (+1dex), diamond (+1vit), emerald (+1luck), ruby (+str).
so 6 gems to do 6 ring.
You can have : archer (speed or mallard focused) so 3 differents rings or more can be used.
You can have : Warrior (speed or raging focused) so 4 differents rings or more can be used.
You can have : mage (dark or light path) 2 ring can be used.
So you can create more than 2 char and ofc you can have several simple ring.
BUT if you have only one char and want to do more than two rings?

So if i well understand in yesterday meeting, the ring from the girl is now cheaper. that is a good news.
AND if you do the simple quest reloadable you can increase the price. I mean at the 3rd ring normally if you can do it you cant mind of simple ring price is cheaper or not.

Another point.
How can Noob have the wisp powder, spectre powder to do Orum quest.
Atm Ishi give them but in your next step seems no. So how can we do this quest?

Idk if i explain well, my english is not really good, sorry for that.

EDIT

i saw there is no ring with a pearl why?
Why not create a ring with a pearl only for those who are married?
using the marriage ring craft with a pearl...
Can only use by those who are married and give them (more accuracy or int or str or else) and if ppl divorce they cant use the pearl ring anymore.

re EDIT

why not put in Inya (the girl who made the expensive ring) showcase some gems and ring? Like you did with terranite in tulim where we can buy the arrows.
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About the rings: I hope I don't misunderstand you, but to me two rings are more than enough.
You can only equip one anyway.

Edit:
Altus Institute wrote:EDIT

i saw there is no ring with a pearl why?
Heh I just thought about that again too last week :D
We already had that idea, it just never got realized.
*writes it down*
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EDIT : my post have moved :shock:
Cassy wrote:About the rings: I hope I don't misunderstand you, but to me two rings are more than enough.
You can only equip one anyway.
one by char/alts ofc.
why can we create 9 alts if i can make only 2 rings?
I understand each char can do the quest and made 2 rings more, but if i dont want to do these quest with my alts, i must be locked at 2 rings? or i must buy them to the MM at an understanstable expensive price?
Lets be clear about it...tell me what do you expect from me when you said its more than enough?

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Guys lets talk the same language.

When at the meeting you said : done
Why its not ingame?
You said the quest for the simple ring is split....where?
I talked to inya, nothing about the simple ring
I talked to Heathin and he talk about doing a simple ring. :alt-4:

in : To Quest or Fight 2014-11-4
- The new Races/Species are not yet playable....Please upgrade Manaplus at your earliest convience.
In what upgrade the client will be concerned? On Evol server there already are many species from a long time. Can you explain this?
-Fixed Nigel (Beer Ghost)
What is that?
-New mob: Lava Slime
where?
New map: The Sanguine Vault (incl. the fight club)
Its just hard for the small screen to see the fight if the fighter are down in the area so where are to move to see the fight :alt-4: .

in : Our skin is crawling with Bugs! 2014-10-23
-Barbers will work with new Classes
what is the new classes? Classes = species?

Back in Business 2014-10-07
-Kids Book added
what use for this? Just an item put ingame like that?
I saw on the forum many items near to be released from a long time on the forum, but nothing about this one (from a long date) why this project take the head over some to be released?
-Inspector and Forest Bow quest working together
its not true, im 3-4 weeks old on the server and the quest are not together.

Now with less spam 2014-09-01
-More beds were made "sleepable"
I dont understand why we awake stand up already after a instant death.
Why after instant death we are not awake in a bed or in a house?
For example if i die near innak i awake in hospital, that is good.
But if i die in bat cave, i awake near oscar, just like that...dropind from the sky.
Why not in a house? or in a bed?
-Towels are Worthless
If its true why the annual quest is still here, why is not included in the current quest?
And why is still so expensive?

Lag Sickness 2014-07-12
-Adding proper attack particle to Moonshroom
where can i find this mob?

Who let this guy write news entries? 2014-07-01
-Sling Shot color changed to wood as it's now able to be dyed
How? i dont see selim proposal for this items perhaps another npc? But who?

Item Split & Mob Shuffle 2014-06-17
-Moonshroom Added (Not In-game)
ok lol its for that i cant find them :lol:
why added? To do what with?

ok ok ty for your answers :alt-7:
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Trying to answer what I can.
Altus Institute wrote:EDIT : my post have moved :shock:
Yeah, guess wushin thought it's better to have an own topic for the rings (which I agree with of course).
I'm trying to split it again.
Let's please keep the rings topic and questions about the updates / the meeting separated ;)

Edit: Seems phpBB3 still has no option to split a post into two.
I renamed the topic name instead so it fits its content.

Altus Institute wrote: one by char/alts ofc.
why can we create 9 alts if i can make only 2 rings?
I understand each char can do the quest and made 2 rings more, but if i dont want to do these quest with my alts, i must be locked at 2 rings? or i must buy them to the MM at an understanstable expensive price?
Lets be clear about it...tell me what do you expect from me when you said its more than enough?
I'm afraid I don't understand completely.
You won't need more than two rings for one character anyway.
You can only equip one but also have a spare one if you decide to change classes.
That more than enough.
For a second character just do the two quests again with it and gain another two rings.
Altus Institute wrote:-Fixed Nigel (Beer Ghost)
What is that?
An NPC that was buggy.
Altus Institute wrote:-New mob: Lava Slime
where?
As of now only @spawn-able by GMs.
Content follows.
The Lava Slime was a something like a long-term project lurking in the depths of our previous Trello development board until I finally put it in our monster datebase.
Altus Institute wrote:in : Our skin is crawling with Bugs! 2014-10-23
-Barbers will work with new Classes
what is the new classes? Classes = species?
Yes.
Altus Institute wrote:Back in Business 2014-10-07
-Kids Book added
what use for this? Just an item put ingame like that?
https://wiki.themanaworld.org/index.php/Kid_Book
Altus Institute wrote:I saw on the forum many items near to be released from a long time on the forum, but nothing about this one (from a long date) why this project take the head over some to be released?
Well.... feel free to finish them :D
Developers come and go and since they do their stuff voluntary they are not forced to finish their stuff.
E.g. the Lava Slime "project" was not originally started by me but I finished it.
Altus Institute wrote: -Towels are Worthless
If its true why the annual quest is still here, why is not included in the current quest?
And why is still so expensive?
That's on my to-do list though I'm rather looking for a replacement reward (towel-related of course).
Altus Institute wrote:Lag Sickness 2014-07-12
-Adding proper attack particle to Moonshroom
where can i find this mob?
Same as Lava Slime: only @spawn-able by GMs.
I got a project planned for it but that's somewhere in the future.
Altus Institute wrote:Who let this guy write news entries? 2014-07-01
-Sling Shot color changed to wood as it's now able to be dyed
How? i dont see selim proposal for this items perhaps another npc? But who?
That's missleading :?
You can't dye it at Selim, the icon of the Sling Shot you see when playing is dyed.
The dyeable, original version looks like this:
Image
Altus Institute wrote:Item Split & Mob Shuffle 2014-06-17
-Moonshroom Added (Not In-game)
ok lol its for that i cant find them :lol:
why added? To do what with?
See above.
Well you can have fun with it at spawn parties, can't you? ;)
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Thx for your answers.

Im ok with this, lets split the topic. Here will remain the ring topic but tell me where i must put the question about past update pls.
I cant rename the tilte here can you do it?

About the pearl ring, some tell me there is already 6 ring in the game why add a new ring.
Lets me explain.

Because i would something suitable for married ppl.
Its a special status who invole 2 players. Lets do it something special for them.
And see, there will have a spell to teleport the spouse...so

So the ppl must be married. They must have the wedding ring.
When they are the guy from the government and the girl in the wood will tell them to go to see Inya coz she can propose a new stuff for married ppl.

Inya pearl ring will be open only when ppl are married and propose them a set of ring.
Why a set?
Coz they are married =p
The set of two pearl ring will cost 1.5KK gp. Means 750k gp by char.
They must bring 2 pearl (in same inventory or not idk) and the wedding ring ofc.

This items will be wearing only by married ppl. And only by them.
In case of divorce they cant wear the ring anymore.
Lets say Inya can buy back the pearl ring for 350k gp or less.

Another thing why not give to ppl who are married a special item?
Like a hat or something we can see, perhaps dyeable? (like the contributor shirt for example).But only married ppl can wear it.

The wedding officer will say, now you are married, you can go to see Inya she have a special present for you.
And married ppl can have the gift, and access to the pearl ring item if they can do it.

What do you thing about?
For those who will ask about what the ring can do or not...i will say idk.
For sure there is ppl who can think about it and add their proposal here :alt-6:
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ah, still nothing new with Heathin and Inya
Nothing have changed.
At the meeting Wushin said its done. it isnt.
At the last update Wushin said : yerp. and still nothing.


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In the list below i see what items ppl can use to do the Trick or Treat quest.

Noh Mask(2) yes noob can have it.
Demon Mask(4) yes noob can have it.
Skull Mask(4) rare item - 5% of the players have it.
Face Mask(4) rare item - 5% of the players have it.
Pumpkin Helmet(2) player can buy it at expensive price at MM
Crusade Helmet(3) yes noob can have it.
Guy Fawkes Mask(2) rare item - 5% of the players have it.
Pinkie Helmet(2)Need lv85 to get it
Paper Bag(1) rare item - 5% of the players have it.
Opera Mask(3) rare item - 5% of the players have it.
Jester Mask(2) rare item - 5% of the players have it.
Goblin Mask(4) rare item - 5% of the players have it.
Yeti Mask(4) player can buy it at expensive price at MM

so noob players can use only 3 masks in the best case to get candies.
Only few ppl in the game have them.
So the purpose of this quest is if you are new is to do it without having a mask?
And the 5% will get another mask in more?
A mask who will become a rare that even the noob player cant have or must pay to have?

Why the oscar quest is after the trick or treat quest?
We need the pumkin helmet before the trick and treat quest not once its closed.
Now i have a bunch of pumpkin helmet for no use


So be clear, if you will do the change why say yes for a no?
If you will not do it just say it.
If you have pb doing it say it too.

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Any player who's been around for long knows that it is *really* easy to get Yeti Mask, Pumpkin Helmet, and Axe Hat (which also works for the quest even though it doesn't cover the face). If it's on ManaMarket for at an expensive rate, that's only the nature of capitalism for you - marketing can convince people that they really *need* something that they don't or that they can easily get in another manner.

You're right that this makes a separation between newbies and moderately experienced players, but it's not according to character level (although you probably need to be at least level 40-50 to survive without a dedicated escort).
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Atlas I said I would work on it, sadly things did not go so well with the last upgrade. I've not forgotten, we've just not had time.
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https://github.com/themanaworld/tmwa-se ... a/pull/222

This is on test.
  • Simple Ring is purchasable for 1 Million GP from Inya
  • Simple Ring part is no longer required for Heathin
  • Replacement quest put in place of simple ring on Heathing
  • Heathin has had his prices reduced
  • Heathin now gives XP for making the pieces
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wushin wrote:https://github.com/themanaworld/tmwa-se ... a/pull/222

This is on test.
  • Simple Ring is purchasable for 1 Million GP from Inya
Ty Wushin but 1 million to buy the simple ring and 1 million to craft a gem on it, isnt it a bit expensive?
Or now the ring give a +5??
That will make the ring an items ultra rare.
I tought it was a typo (=D), no no on test server Inya sell the simple ring at 1million.
and craft the gem on it for 1 million.
Cost of a ring (+1 in status) : 2 millions Oo
Why?
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how about:

Simple Ring is purchasable for 100K GP from Inya
Gem Setting is now 100K GP
Gem Removing is now 50K GP

Changed and on test.
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Altus Institute wrote:
wushin wrote:https://github.com/themanaworld/tmwa-se ... a/pull/222

This is on test.
  • Simple Ring is purchasable for 1 Million GP from Inya
Ty Wushin but 1 million to buy the simple ring and 1 million to craft a gem on it, isnt it a bit expensive?
Or now the ring give a +5??
That will make the ring an items ultra rare.
I tought it was a typo (=D), no no on test server Inya sell the simple ring at 1million.
and craft the gem on it for 1 million.
Cost of a ring (+1 in status) : 2 millions Oo
Why?
Simple Ring is purchasable for 100K GP from Inya
Gem Setting is now 100K GP
Gem Removing is now 50K GP
Simple Ring part is no longer required for Heathin
Replacement quest put in place of simple ring on Heathing
Heathin has had his prices reduced
Heathin now gives XP for making the pieces
did you open the link Atlas?
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Balbenberg wrote: did you open the link Atlas?
When i wrote the post all was at million gp, in the link and on the test server.
But all finish well.

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Yar, I changed the price and updated Inya. It was 1 Million but I knocked everything down. Even the price of making Terranite Armor is knocked down.
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