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Item Mall

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 03:35
by rok2ic
You could create an item mall.

I'm the kind of guy who have a very very little time to play, and I usually compensate that by buying some "cash" and get some gold or items.

Re: Item Mall

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 12:54
by Crush
I am against an item mall. I believe that everyone should have the same chance to be successful. Noone should be able to "buy" success. When we ever need money desperately I would rather take monthly subscription fees.

Re: Item Mall

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 14:18
by Platyna
I have joined this project because I was promised by project admins that items and stats will never be sold for IRL money.

Regards.

Re: Item Mall

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 14:57
by rok2ic
Crush wrote:I am against an item mall. I believe that everyone should have the same chance to be successful. Noone should be able to "buy" success. When we ever need money desperately I would rather take monthly subscription fees.
Crush,

When you say "same chance", you forget that there is some people, like me, who have around 30-40 minutes a day, sometimes per week, to play your game. So the item mall is that chance for me, if i want to invest my time in this game, in front of lots of players who just have all the time they want to play.

It's not a matter to buy sucess. It's a matter of how life really is. Some people have time, some people have money, some people have both, some people have none.

I cannot see a reason to pay a monthly fee in your game, when I have a very large number of mmorpgs a lot more evolved where I can subscribe, if I want. :wink:

So It's not a matter of you needing money, it's a matter of me enjoying playing.

Re: Item Mall

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 15:06
by rok2ic
Platyna wrote:I have joined this project because I was promised by project admins that items and stats will never be sold for IRL money.

Regards.
Platyna,

I understand that you might be frustrated with bad past experiences.

But, i'm sorry if I disagree with you. 8)

I mean, if you think that others games are that so mercenary for money that breaks the balancing of the game with item malls and special items, so don't do that.

Anyway, it's an interesting game. :wink:

Re: Item Mall

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 15:21
by Crush
It's not like being unable to invest a lot of time changes your game experience. It rather stretches your game experience over a longer real-life timeframe.

In my experience the low level gameplay of mmorpgs is usually the most fun and tmw is IMO not an exception. You are not really missing out on a lot by not being able to reach a high level in a few weeks.

Re: Item Mall

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 15:22
by Rotonen
AFAIK anyone is free to take our software and provide such a service on their own server.

The stand of our team has been against such methods of profit on our server.

Re: Item Mall

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 15:32
by rok2ic
Crush wrote: In my experience the low level gameplay of mmorpgs is usually the most fun and tmw is IMO not an exception. You are not really missing out on a lot by not being able to reach a high level in a few weeks.
Crush,

Well... I agree with that.

Regards

Re: Item Mall

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 15:33
by rok2ic
Rotonen wrote:AFAIK anyone is free to take our software and provide such a service on their own server.

The stand of our team has been against such methods of profit on our server.

Again, i'm not talking about you getting money, i was talking about me enjoying more the game.

No problem, I got your message.

Re: Item Mall

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 16:15
by Platyna
I am not separated in my statement here. A lot of people before joining asked for the same thing and were promised the same thing. I think if some artist or programmer would like to work for a commercial project they would find some suitable one.

This is a free game - where a person of IRL income of $5000/day and a person of income of 5$/day can reach the same levels and glory - this is what is beautiful in such projects and makes people to contribute.

Regards.

Re: Item Mall

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 17:24
by 5t3v3
Platyna wrote:This is a free game - where a person of IRL income of $5000/day and a person of income of 5$/day can reach the same levels and glory - this is what is beautiful in such projects and makes people to contribute.
Well, at least if he can find an immensely cheap ISP :lol:

Re: Item Mall

Posted: 28 Jan 2009, 12:35
by JoshLangley
I'm all for virtual items, as long as they are well balanced.

What's to stop players from just paying a power levelling service to grind for them to attain higher levels and status? The only difference is that he will be giving away the money to a third-party service instead of that money that have could have gone back into the server.

I think virtual items that can help the pay for the server/bandwidth (maybe even content that we r short on) is a good idea. If people are willing to give some money for a bit of bonuses then what's the big deal, it will boost the project along.

Re: Item Mall

Posted: 28 Jan 2009, 13:42
by EJlol
If there is gonna be a shop that sells the items I drawed for real life money, I would not contribute anymore. I drawed those graphics for free, and if someone else (be it they one who owns the server, or some kind of third party) makes a profit of it, thats just sad :(

Im still thinking about releasing some graphics under a different license than GPL, that does not allow to make profit of it.

Re: Item Mall

Posted: 28 Jan 2009, 14:13
by Jaxad0127
EJlol wrote:Im still thinking about releasing some graphics under a different license than GPL, that does not allow to make profit of it.
Then we couldn't use them.

Re: Item Mall

Posted: 28 Jan 2009, 14:58
by Crush
Summary: The majority of the development team is strictly against any premium items on the official server and thus it is very unlikely to happen in the forseeable future.


But: The GNU General Public License does permit commercial usage. So there is nothing which stops anyone from creating his own server and charge people for playing on it or to sell benefits to players.

On the other hand: This server would still have to compete with the official server where everything is for free. So it would have to offer very good support, reliability and administration so that people have a reason to play on it.

But No. 2: When this server offers such a good support, performance and administration, wouldn't this be an added value the owner deserves to get paid for?