Land of Fire TMW is online!

[Pihro]

There is a new server online, location is landoffire.no-ip.org, it has some new content and items, and new maps and quests are coming soon!

[Len]

The brutal truth is that carbon copy servers just never work (even with new content incentives), sure you'll get a few of your friends to come hang out for a little while...Till they get sick of being alone and go back to TMW that is. The game-play and graphics need to be totally different to gain a new following (you could have much faster game-play easy to kill monsters but also a lot easier to die) and as for graphic so many tilesets and items remain unused that with very little effort you could make a completely different looking game.

[Techron]

Thanks for the information but I will not be visiting your server. The number one reason I will not play on another Mana World is stability. Why would I invest hundreds of hours of play time in a character on a server that may not be there tomorrow? Both Serenity and Alternate had good content but they are gone now with never much more explanation than "Cannot connect to remote host".

Techron

[Crush]

Good luck with your server. Feel free to add it to the wiki page of alternative servers:
http://wiki.themanaworld.org/index.php/Servers

(By the way: that page looks like it could use some cleanup)


But I also agree with Len. It's sad that every server is build on the same old content. The tmwAthena Server + Mana Client + Tiled Mapeditor software stack is a Free plattform which allows to create whole new online worlds. People could use it to create their own individual worlds to explore with unique lore and scenarios. But instead of that they just use it to create carbon copies of TMW. Seriously, who needs that? When you want to do the same old quests on the same old maps, you can just play the original.

The freely available TMW content files should be used as an example for how to build an own world, but they are not supposed to be used as a template.

[Pihro]

Thank you all for commenting and yes, I understand that we may never may have more than 5-8 players, but since starting it I have learned enough to start a new world from studying the content, like a guideline. For now it is a copy of the mana world, but I am working on mapping an entirely new world. It may be a while but thank you for commenting and sharing your opinions

[tux9th]

In my opinion it would be much more awesome if you would take the time and effort you are using on your private server to contribute to the main server. We could really use some content developers and if you can do it why not just help on the main server. It's true it takes time until something is released to the main server but then you entertain hundreds of people with it and they aknowledge you for it.
I would enjoy that much more if I had the expertiece to do that.

so far tuX

[Len]

In my opinion it would be much more awesome if you would take the time and effort you are using on your private server to contribute to the main server. We could really use some content developers and if you can do it why not just help on the main server. It's true it takes time until something is released to the main server but then you entertain hundreds of people with it and they aknowledge you for it.
I would enjoy that much more if I had the expertiece to do that.

so far tuX

why not just help on the main server

The main server is kinda of set in its ways, and many do not like the direction its been on. Also note that a new server with a vastly different look and gameplay, might be able to pull-in people who wouldn't touch TMW.

[Pihro]

Our new maps are online! A Dark World version of hurns, with mobs like Black Slimes, Lava Slimes, Treasure Boxes, Penguins, and Snow Flakes! New quests coming soon, talk to the teleporter in hurns if you want to see the Dark Hurns!

[Len]

You can exploit the towels by selling them for 500gp and going back to get another (if I set up my ghost mouse I could have about 6mill in a few hours)

Also inverting the colors is not really giving you the look your going for (you should probably use an overlay instead).

[Pihro]

i am aware of this, and thank you how exactly wouldi get an overlay?

[Crush]

i am aware of this, and thank you how exactly wouldi get an overlay?

It's described in the mapping tutorial in the section "ambient effects":
http://wiki.themanaworld.org/index.php/ ... nt_effects


Regarding your dark world idea: just converting the tilesets to negative might be an easy hack, but it results in some strange details, like white outlines or areas like the cave which are already dark to suddenly becomming very bright.

I would recommend to play a bit with the color curves, hue, saturation, brightness and contrast of the individual color channels instead. That might allow you to radically change the mood of a tileset without making it look strange.

[tehTomphaA]

I've played on this server a couple days now and I think I enjoy a bit more than the Original mana server (clearly because of the new content) and I'm happy that your doing it, even if it would be cooler to enjoy these updates on a server that has 100s of players... Now just waiting for new quests, Keep it up!

[Pihro]

thank you Crush I will look into that.

[DarkCon]

I agree with the others on helping the main server, Herd of stone soup!

[Len]

Herd of stone soup!

TMW's problem is not that it's an empty pot waiting to be filled with goods.

TMW's problem is more like this
Sure it would be a nice if you fixed it up, but the cost of doing so is so much more than its worth and you would just be better off starting from scratch.