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Post by Nard » 24 Mar 2014, 16:32

After a first trial which looked more as a flag:
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I propose this one:
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Re: Manaplus Icon

Post by WildX » 24 Mar 2014, 21:34

Looks more like a cross than a "plus" symbol.
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Re: Manaplus Icon

Post by Nard » 24 Mar 2014, 23:53

I isa crusade cross intended to symbolize bith role play and the "+"
M is a gothic font for the same purpose..
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Re: Manaplus Icon

Post by Reid » 25 Mar 2014, 00:51

To resume what I said on IRC before and while Nard was present:
- The overall work is a on a great quality, nice job
- The gothic/crusade style is maybe not what represent evol the best
- We need something which could work for both tmw, evol and other servers/forks
- We need to concept the logo in first time before to draw a concrete one
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Re: Manaplus Icon

Post by Nard » 25 Mar 2014, 12:20

New version:
  • Changed the cross to a + in the same font
  • Add a bit luminosity to the red
  • removed lens effect
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Reid wrote:We need to concept the logo in first time before to draw a concrete one

Here are the specifications I tried to follow:
  • Suggest the ManaPlus name, At least as good as the previous one did.
  • Stay compatible with various servers.
  • icon/Logo must stay simple.
  • must be rescalable.
  • suggests role play/fantasy if possible (thus the gothic font)
  • A round global shape to suggest a world.
The metallic frame is a wink to mac-ish icons and mac is with, xerox workstation, the first platform designed for the user. Mana plus often fits the first editions of apple guidelines.
I had first the idea to draw a virtual world map such as TMW's one (or just Argae's) but they don't rescale well or . I finally chose the first evol outside map because it fits the specs and the shape suggests a tree or even a mob. I don't think that this choice makes the link between manaplus and evol appear more important than it is. The best would be that reasonable TMW leaders give their opinion about it. ;)

In my opinion, the ManaPlus name makes the link between the mana "family" of worlds, dead or alive, and also with it's origins (mana). It is difficult to make much more.

The svg file is available to evol contributors here: http://tinyurl.com/manaplussvg2b
refs:
http://robert-pfeffer.net/schriftarten/ ... index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Libertine (Linux Biolinum might be a good alternative)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_softw ... _typefaces, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ty ... code_fonts .
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Re: Manaplus Icon

Post by WildX » 25 Mar 2014, 16:00

Better! I still don't like the "m" covering the tree. Maybe it should be covering only the roots or something.
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Re: Manaplus Icon

Post by Nard » 26 Mar 2014, 07:14

WildX wrote:Better! I still don't like the "m" covering the tree. Maybe it should be covering only the roots or something.
I have no satisfying solution to this point. "M" and "+" must be big enough to catch the eye at small size. Tree is decor only.

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Other propositions after Wushin suggestions:
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Celtic font: http://fr.fonts2u.com/celtic-plain001001.police
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Re: Manaplus Icon

Post by Nard » 27 Mar 2014, 17:07

After some comments, another one. (not sure if I understood well).
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I had also this one :lol: :
[...]M look like ass
I must admit it is true alt27 (I thought to weeping willow and a greek "phi").
edit.: I tried to edit the bottom :P, but it leaded to unwanted advertizing for a well known hamburger distributor :/
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Re: Manaplus Icon

Post by WildX » 27 Mar 2014, 21:42

It's getting much better! I prefer dark orange for the "+", and perhaps playing around with different fonts could be good too, but I like it overall :)
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Re: Manaplus Icon

Post by Nard » 30 Mar 2014, 00:59

Another one with fantasy font which avoids the confusion with letters Ф (cyrillic and greek). the M letter is nice but would require a higher saturation at small size.
The overall balance between text and image is changed. :/ Changed the frame to a brassy one.
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Re: Manaplus Icon

Post by WildX » 30 Mar 2014, 19:30

I'd say it's almost perfect. The "m" looks a bit too stretched though. We'll also need a smaller version that's not just a resize.
Sorry for just pointing faults, it's important for Manaplus to have a good logo! I appreciate the work :)
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Re: Manaplus Icon

Post by Reid » 30 Mar 2014, 20:41

WildX wrote:I'd say it's almost perfect. The "m" looks a bit too stretched though. We'll also need a smaller version that's not just a resize.
Sorry for just pointing faults, it's important for Manaplus to have a good logo! I appreciate the work :)
That's a development section, that's not made to be friendly. :>
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Re: Manaplus Icon

Post by Nard » 30 Mar 2014, 20:48

Thanks WildX :) Don't be sorry to say what you think, the goal of this thread is precisely to have critics and suggestions that can lead to a good result.
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Re: Manaplus Icon

Post by EJlol » 29 Nov 2016, 13:21

I don't think the tree in the background is a good idea. Especially at smaller sizes, it makes the M+ unreadable. If the tree is really important I would suggest to have 2 icons, one small and one big. The small one without the tree, and a big icon with the tree, but stylized instead. The smaller icon also needs a thicker frame around, it's quite invisible at the moment.

I like the new M+ fantasy font (including the stretched look).
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