Livio wrote: ↑12 May 2021, 23:12
feff wrote: ↑11 May 2021, 05:53
It certainly dampens people's enthusiasm when they say that you can do something just because it's free software, without any knowledge of your skill or ability.
Before contributing to rEvolt quests they warned me that TMW will never be like RPG Maker. So read the manual and ask on IRC if you aren't able to go on with development. I kinda dislike that but I see no other way to move on.
RPG Maker isn't even open source! That automatically makes it worse than any C++ project!
Yeah I have weird criteria I know.
All I'm saying is it's not enough to tell someone they're "free" to edit the source. Not everyone can do that, and manaplus is a bit less "doable" than most programs. Better to say something like "I don't really want that to be done," or "It would be neat if someone fixed that," instead of phrasing it like they're not good enough to fix it.
jesusalva wrote: ↑13 May 2021, 00:41
Also, when you hear something along the lines "DIY" (Do it yourself), it is not (only?) because we think you might fall in any of the above no-no categories, it is the maximum rule for developers and we tell each other "DIY" quite often as well.
I never really saw the point of saying that. I might say "You can do it yourself by ..." and then give the actual advice. But I'm not asking people to do it for me here, so why would anyone feel a need to tell me to do it myself?
Heck I'm not even arguing that anything should be done. I think this change shouldn't be done! It's already fixed!
Ledmitz wrote: ↑13 May 2021, 00:52
"The point I was trying to make is that it takes a better player to cycle targets and heal based on observation and interaction, rather than having a cheat key that automatically finds the most injured player.
It's not cheating when you make things easier. It's cheating when you make things easier only for yourself, people you're playing with don't know you're doing it, and you use that advantage against them.
I prefer the term "griefing" to be honest. It's less hostile to cleverness and ingenuity and more to the point than "cheating."
I do think it would be neat if there were better ways to observe and interact. Like if you could have everyone's HP/max HP pop up when cycling through targets. People might deliberately avoid 'F' in that situation, since there was another way they could effectively play.
If you have a key like this, you make it less of a game. The challenge is in the operation. This isn't a total strategy game, but is in part. Hand-eye coordination should still matter to some degree.
I mean you're free not to press the 'F' key. What you're saying is that I should not be allowed to play that way. Development of the game affects everyone who plays, so it's a lot bigger deal when you take away our options. My coordination isn't great, so should that punish other people by barring me from healing them, at no benefit to anyone?