[GIT] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)
Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)
I think the wing size is fine as it is.
Remember, in fantasy the rule of cool is always more important than realism. There is simply no reason to make a graphic look less cool just because it is "unrealistic" or breaks some "laws of physics".
Remember, in fantasy the rule of cool is always more important than realism. There is simply no reason to make a graphic look less cool just because it is "unrealistic" or breaks some "laws of physics".
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Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)
EDIT: Crush posted. Indeed, if they look cool then realism doesn't matter. This monster probably needs some work before it's cool enough to get away with that though - but it's certainly on its way.
Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)
Here's the current spriteset, with a death frame. I kept some space in case i'd come up with a nice attack animation. As Fother suggested, i'll work on fixing the wings perspective and try to separate the wings from the body to turn them into an accessory spriteset.
Edit : i removed the empty frames, if this was the problem...
Edit : i removed the empty frames, if this was the problem...
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Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)
My opinion, not that it was asked for or anything, but on the facing front and rear frames the tail section looks kinda unnatural just being so straight and stiff. What about a little "wiggle" action there?
Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)
Actually i think i'll remake this sprite from scratch, it might be faster than trying to fix the perspective on that one. I don't like how the tail ends in front and back view either, i'll try to add some "wiggle" effect to them on the new version.
Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)
I started a little larva variation :
As for the previous, the coloration system has to be used, examples :
As for the previous, the coloration system has to be used, examples :
Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)
This gives me a idea... we could give the larva a chance to summon the adult version on death.
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Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)
Looks great! Wish I had more experience with non-humanoid sprites
Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)
Bringing this topic back to life because it has so much potential. On the flying sprite it needs a shadow to make it even clearer that it is in the air. Shading as len pointed out is an issue. If this is more snake like I suggest following his suggestions. Wings also need work. I do suggest increasing wing size maybe by a little and give that detail that crush suggested. Take note of the cell like shapes in the wings. The larva would need work on shading this way as well. It's a rounded object. don't be afraid to add those extra pixels around the light source (some people might be concerned that its pillow shading but round being its case, I don't think so just don't over do it.) Kage's thought on bringing the flying sprite from the larva sounds fun I would like to see this in the game. Allot of potential is here.
Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)
I hope Arikel come back and finish this monster... Spritesheet is currently developed enough as to test it with .XML and dyable examples proposed,
but I think graphic details still need some work to [FND] (as wings, death/attack frames, floor shadows, x/y_offsets, etc).
- Here's the spritesheet+XML files ready for testing if anyone want to finish this monster,
Also I tryed to ilustrate how dyable system works with pure color channels, just to have more examples about this feature: Larva Spritesheet (45x45):
Dyable variation used on monsters.xml:-------------------------------------------------
Wyvern Spritesheet (65x75):
Dyable variation used on monsters.xml:
but I think graphic details still need some work to [FND] (as wings, death/attack frames, floor shadows, x/y_offsets, etc).
- Here's the spritesheet+XML files ready for testing if anyone want to finish this monster,
Also I tryed to ilustrate how dyable system works with pure color channels, just to have more examples about this feature: Larva Spritesheet (45x45):
Dyable variation used on monsters.xml:
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<monster id="xxx" name="Grass Larva" targetCursor="small">
<sprite>monsters/monster-larva.xml|#136D13,438917,83A51B,C0C01F,FFDB24</sprite>
</monster>
<monster id="xxx" name="Desert Larva" targetCursor="small">
<sprite>monsters/monster-larva.xml|#776046,997B5B,BB966F,DDB383,FFCF98</sprite>
</monster>
Dyable variation used on monsters.xml:
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<monster id="xxx" name="Wyvern" targetCursor="small">
<sprite>monsters/monster-wyvern.xml|#773E0E,995013,BB6117,DD731C,FF8522;#DEBFBF,BBA2A2</sprite>
</monster>
Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)
Vespa (Wyvern) & Larvespa (Larva) were added to the database. Thanks to arikel for the graphics, and thanks to pateame for the xml and co.
Re: [GIT] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)
I like the Larva. It could on death spawn (agressive) maggots also. Its nice. And vywern concept is also good. If its wings could look more like bat wings, it would be great.
Re: [GIT] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)
A wyvern is a dragon-shaped monster. This isn't at all how a wyvern looks, more like a Vespa. If you want to make a wyvern, please start from scratch. That doesn't mean the flying mob wasn't good, well it is great in fact!
EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyvern
EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyvern
Re: [GIT] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)
Creating fantasy doesn't mean to run after every fantasy author who came before.Ali-G wrote:A wyvern is a dragon-shaped monster. This isn't at all how a wyvern looks, more like a Vespa. If you want to make a wyvern, please start from scratch.
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