[FUSION] [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

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Keep everything or burn everything?

Migrate as much data as possible
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57%
Migrate the bare minimum and compensate the players (see compensation thread)
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43%
 
Total votes: 92
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Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

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dragoon84 wrote:1. the skull helmet give more magic bonus than the wizard hat, i have seen and i also have a wizard hat (not worth the money that i pay for it)
Yes, you're right.... but the Int bonus of the Wiz hat gives more M.attack bonus than just the skull helm... at least at higher levels.

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:alt-2: that i didn't know thanks for the info :alt-9:

please increase the money rewards from the quests because is one way to have a stable economy and one more thing introduce max prices of the things (items and gears) in players shops, for the sake of the in game economy.
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hiya tmw ,

Things that can be migrated without any problem:

Character level
Character stats
Inventory items (with a converter)
If we add to Evol every single item present on TMW
Storage items (with a converter)
If we add to Evol every single item present on TMW
Parties
Spouses
GM Levels (manually)

that's enough for me :-) , thanks for hours of work you give
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I prefer to cut short, there won't ever be a merge with all items currently as is in TMW, there shall be a logic and consistency and thus a good part of them should be changed and improved.
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please cast you vote in this poll, it has all about the quests in the TMW and maybe in the future merge game

https://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtop ... =4&t=19735
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Reid wrote:I prefer to cut short, there won't ever be a merge with all items currently as is in TMW, there shall be a logic and consistency and thus a good part of them should be changed and improved.
Chaos is a bad gameplay, whatever you could say.
It's a video game, it's not supposed to be *All* logic. Consistency...boy I've heard that word before...Merging with Evol isn't consistent it's a bad choice. It should stay 2 different games/servers. People have different ideas and are more free to work and add to TMW than they would in with a merge with Evol.

The most *Inconsistent* thing that could happen is to merge the two. The fact you can't merge all data and items and players are forced to merge with that is dumb and again *Inconsistent* players have been playing this game for years it's stupid for them not being able to bring their stuff over if it doesn't make sense to a person who will have control after a merge.

Ridiculous.

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If you don't like the new game there is one option DON'T PLAY :twisted:
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dragoon84: These are discussion topics, they are for players to talk about the good AND bad opinions they have on topics. You are not helping by posting just to tell people to not play, or shaming them for a "bad" opinion. We can't have real discussions if nobody's allowed to disagree or criticize.
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dragoon84 wrote:If you don't like the new game there is one option DON'T PLAY :twisted:
coming from someone who can just go play evol? LOL same with the current people trying to make this stupid merge plan, if you wanna merge just move to evol stop ruining this server with your dumb ideas of merging 2 different games.
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Please keep the discussion useful and positive. We've clearly reached somewhat of a choice that works for now.

1) TMWA's TMW will not be touched not wiped etc.
2) The New Game will only have Accounts and Chars nothing else.
3) Everyone has already changed their minds 4-5 times on #2 since we started discussion.
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Sorry for being so aggressive. But the TMW will keep existing so you don't need for playing the new game. Stop being against the merge because the merge isn't a real merge. The 2 games will still existing the merge is just a new game so will exist 3 games (TMW, Evol and the new game)
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wushin wrote:2) The New Game will only have Accounts and Chars nothing else.
So just to clarify, that means no GP, Skills, Items, Magic, or Experience Level, Right?
Also... How does this effect my Evol account? Will that be a legacy server as well or will that become the new merged server?

If this has already been answered somewhere, just point me in the right direction please.

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I will try and say this very delicately, if I fail please forgive me.

The idea of a merge means sharing, I have heard what we will have to sacrifice, will the existing evol players be making scarifices or is it just TMW?

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prsm wrote:I will try and say this very delicately, if I fail please forgive me.
Well it somehow failed as I take it very deeply. But I understand your point.
prsm wrote:The idea of a merge means sharing, I have heard what we will have to sacrifice, will the existing evol players be making scarifices or is it just TMW?

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wushin wrote: 1) TMWA's TMW will not be touched not wiped etc.
Since TMW will be left untouched by this, wouldn't it be more proper call this new thing a fork instead of a merge? :wink:
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