[1945-08-09 : NAGASAKI DAY] Useless to comment

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Thanks for informing us.

~dreadful...
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[Goku]

loves to spam

[Enchilado!]

Goku, stoppit. You'll just get yourself a ban.

~loves to spam
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[Goku]

people do it on regular basis no biggy

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Not true...! Only 'bout half the people on here spam.

~oh...
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[thedarkfinder]

Uber what is your point? Really what is the point? Is it that when pushed to the edge, people will do anything to win? Is it that a militaristic nation, which killed up to 23-30 million civilians should not be stopped? What is your point? I am really confused.

Or are you trying to pass the sins of the father onto the children?

Is that it.

[thedarkfinder]

[...] are you trying to pass the sins of the father onto the children? Is that it.

Yes : in a biblical perspective to the children of their children till the 7th generation ... not even a half period of Uranium radioactivity anyway ...

~I hope we all be back to ashes before those times to arrive ... (not in a mood to joke about, so you can take it for granted) ~

Fine with me, lets not joke.

Deuteronomy 24:16) - "Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin."

(Ezekiel 18:20) - "The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself."

But putting that aside.

Do you beleive that the japanese did not bring the bomb on them. They kill 4 million innocent civilians.

They where warned.
Proclamation Defining Terms for Japanese Surrender
Issued, at Potsdam, July 26, 1945

1. We-the President of the United States, the President of the National Government of the Republic of China, and the Prime Minister of Great Britain, representing the hundreds of millions of our countrymen, have conferred and agree that Japan shall be given an opportunity to end this war.
2. The prodigious land, sea and air forces of the United States, the British Empire and of China, many times reinforced by their armies and air fleets from the west, are poised to strike the final blows upon Japan. This military power is sustained and inspired by the determination of all the Allied Nations to prosecute the war against Japan until she ceases to resist.
3. The result of the futile and senseless German resistance to the might of the aroused free peoples of the world stands forth in awful clarity as an example to the people of Japan. The might that now converges on Japan is immeasurably greater than that which, when applied to the resisting Nazis, necessarily laid waste to the lands, the industry and the method of life of the whole German people. The full application of our military power, backed by our resolve, will mean the inevitable and complete destruction of the Japanese armed forces and just as inevitably the utter devastation of the Japanese homeland.
4. The time has come for Japan to decide whether she will continue to be controlled by those self-willed militaristic advisers whose unintelligent calculations have brought the Empire of Japan to the threshold of annihilation, or whether she will follow the path of reason.
5. Following are our terms. We will not deviate from them. There are no alternatives. We shall brook no delay.
6. There must be eliminated for all time the authority and influence of those who have deceived and misled the people of Japan into embarking on world conquest, for we insist that a new order of peace, security and justice will be impossible until irresponsible militarism is driven from the world.
7. Until such a new order is established and until there is convincing proof that Japan's war-making power is destroyed, points in Japanese territory to be designated by the Allies shall be occupied to secure the achievement of the basic objectives we are here setting forth.
8. The terms of the Cairo Declaration shall be carried out and Japanese sovereignty shall be limited to the islands of Honshu, Hokkaido, Kyushu, Shikoku and such minor islands as we determine.
9. The Japanese military forces, after being completely disarmed, shall be permitted to return to their homes with the opportunity to lead peaceful and productive lives.
10. We do not intend that the Japanese shall be enslaved as a race or destroyed as a nation, but stern justice shall be meted out to all war criminals, including those who have visited cruelties upon our prisoners. The Japanese Government shall remove all obstacles to the revival and strengthening of democratic tendencies among the Japanese people. Freedom of speech, of religion, and of thought, as well as respect for the fundamental human rights shall be established.
11. Japan shall be permitted to maintain such industries as will sustain her economy and permit the exaction of just reparations in kind, but not those which would enable her to re-arm for war. To this end, access to, as distinguished from control of, raw materials shall be permitted. Eventual Japanese participation in world trade relations shall be permitted.
12. The occupying forces of the Allies shall be withdrawn from Japan as soon as these objectives have been accomplished and there has been established in accordance with the freely expressed will of the Japanese people a peacefully inclined and responsible government.
13. We call upon the government of Japan to proclaim now the unconditional surrender of all Japanese armed forces, and to provide proper and adequate assurances of their good faith in such action. The alternative for Japan is prompt and utter destruction.


Japan choose the path to the bomb. They choose to continue the war. They cheered when Premier Kantarō Suzuki issued a statement to the population. Informing them they ignore the warning.

They had a choice. As you read above, the statement was not the government, but to the people. They choose to ignore it.

What else do you want the Allies to do? Kill 5 million Japanese and American soldiers taking the main land.

Make a deal with a nation that has broken all treaties and even was cast down by Hilter has being to evil and under handed to be considered a ally?

What do you think should have happened, 5 million more deaths?

PS It is not enough to read the bible you also must understand it.

[thedarkfinder]

[...]It is not enough to read the bible you also must understand it.

You are probably searching for :

• דברים 24:16 Hebrew OT
  לֹא־יוּמְתוּ אָבֹות עַל־בָּנִים וּבָנִים לֹא־יוּמְתוּ עַל־אָבֹות אִישׁ בְּחֶטְאֹו יוּמָתוּ׃ ס
  דברים

You should not just copy and paste from a goggle search.
You brought Greek translate to "prove" original intent. Sorry that will even wash on the internet let alone in any academic level.

I am well aware of the Leningrad Codex (which by itself it just soo many errors that the codex, by itself, is just worthless. You really need to have the Aleppo Codex to make any sense of it.

But the lines read from right to left. Not left to right. But that is a common mistake. Makes it really hard to read. At least for me.

You have still not answered the question.

What do you think should have happened, 5 million more deaths?

[thedarkfinder]

USELESS TO COMMENT
means, personally, "direct material to self spiritual edification".
Nothing worth any trivial erudition or justification exercise ...

You can use big words, got it. Now can you put them into a corhernt answer to my question.

Silence, like the Japanese, means you see the out come of conversation. It is called mokusatsu. It is what got your japanese into the mess.

Can you learn from history. Remaining silent is following the failed policies that your are supporting.

Yes, by remaining silent. You are supporting the deaths of 4 million civilian in china. And the Japanese wellness to kill their own people.

But if you want to support the killing of 35 million people and the torturing and killing of hundreds of thousands. Ok. It is your right.

Yea, the right that the Americans gave you by protecting you from a government, imperial Japan, would have easily the right stripped away.

So go ahead remain silent.