[DIS] Merge TMW-Mana with WoA?

[Wombat]

Since there seems to be a desire to get a game out with the Mana engine with superior art, I have a proposal:

Merge efforts of TMW-Mana with Whispers of Avalon. Request Len and Rotonen be part of the TMW-Mana/WoA Administrative Developer team. It would provide both projects with more artists and it would provide both games with art and content contributors. Not sure if this seems feasible, but I think it would encourage artists like Axltrozz, Irukard, Fother J and bcs to have a project that is actively working to move beyond tA graphics. It would speed a game forward that would use the Mana engine and it would provide the promotional capabilities to more quickly test both games and attract artists from outside tA's player base.

If I'm speaking out of place, I apologize. I just think as it stands, current artists on TMW-Mana seem discouraged and this could be a great morale lift to help both games greatly. I believe the discussion would also be about overcoming any licensing difficulties, but other than that, I don't see how either project could do anything other than win with such a good combination of efforts.

Sound like a good idea? Or does it sound like something that just shouldn't happen? Or is there a middle ground I'm not thinking of?

[Kage]

If I'm speaking out of place, I apologize.

I would try talking to Len and TMW head people before purposing it openly. After all it comes down to the two projects them self.

[Wombat]

Here goes some propaganda on why it would work. If all mentioned would rather avoid this topic like the plague and talk to each other in a more closed medium, I understand. I am just a tA content dev, but I'd like to see both succeed.

[natsuki3]

arikel i have saw in some sites this server is opened but whats the server name and the port i want to try it .

[Matt]

Len got fed up with TMW and started WoA, I don't think a merge will happen - won't make sense either totally different art style.

[Wombat]

Those tilesets seem to fit the WoA player-set rather well. Other than the tilesets, there are no monsters for TMW-Mana afaik, so there shouldn't be a problem with tilesets meeting the WoA project. Also the artist skill for TMW-Mana probably could fit into WoA and vica versa.

[AxlTrozz]

I'm not against the idea, in fact I was thinking in something like that for a few months already but in a different way, Collaboration, means we work together for both projects, means that we combine both teams in one to create both projects.

We define main objectives and tasks that we work as a team and we push forward both projects.

[Rotonen]

From my point of view there might or might not be more workforce over here. More workforce is more than welcome here.

[Wombat]

I guess I'll leave y'all to it. I think any hope for a better player-set will come from WoA and not tA. I am due to work on the expanded player-set, but it seems tA content needs more assistance than I thought, so will only do the minimum to make the existing art consistent with the current tA player-set.

In a few months, perhaps things will be different, but as it stands, I don't see enough of an influx of new contributors nor a return of the old contributors to expand as much as I desired. Hopefully Len will catch word of a desired collaboration and be enthusiastic about cross-collaboration efforts to get some sort of game ready for the Mana engine.

I'll shut up now since I can't help either project. Good luck.

[Reid]

I guess I'll leave y'all to it. I think any hope for a better player-set will come from WoA and not tA. I am due to work on the expanded player-set, but it seems tA content needs more assistance than I thought, so will only do the minimum to make the existing art consistent with the current tA player-set.

In a few months, perhaps things will be different, but as it stands, I don't see enough of an influx of new contributors nor a return of the old contributors to expand as much as I desired. Hopefully Len will catch word of a desired collaboration and be enthusiastic about cross-collaboration efforts to get some sort of game ready for the Mana engine.

I'll shut up now since I can't help either project. Good luck.

Dont say that, me I think that it's a good idea, did you asked Len?

[AxlTrozz]

Well is the history repeating, everyone has a good idea, proposal, project, whatever, but nobody seems to be really involved on real contribution. Lack of time, expertise or even interest are common excuses.

End of The Thread I guess.

[Len]

Here goes some propaganda on why it would work. If all mentioned would rather avoid this topic like the plague and talk to each other in a more closed medium, I understand. I am just a tA content dev, but I'd like to see both succeed.

Interesting proposal, especially considering the slow progression of both projects but I'm not entirely sure the two would mesh together well and a ton of questions would need to be answered. For example would we use TMW's equipment system rather than WOA's class system (we would need to remake all the various equipment sprites) and what about color pallet conflict?

I'm not against the idea, in fact I was thinking in something like that for a few months already but in a different way, Collaboration, means we work together for both projects, means that we combine both teams in one to create both projects.

We define main objectives and tasks that we work as a team and we push forward both projects.

Merging both teams to work on the two games separately wouldn't make that much of a difference

[Rotonen]

I'm not against the idea, in fact I was thinking in something like that for a few months already but in a different way, Collaboration, means we work together for both projects, means that we combine both teams in one to create both projects.

We define main objectives and tasks that we work as a team and we push forward both projects.

Merging both teams to work on the two games separately wouldn't make that much of a difference

The only way it could work would be to have the joint staff alternate fully between projects monthly. Full month of TMW, full month of WoA, full month of TMW, etc...

It is an intriguing idea I've never seen attempted anywhere (well, agile development in corporate coding aside) before, I give you that.