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Re: Dyna, Dimond and (~_~#) got banned

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 19:33
by Matt
Just a remark:

When a game gains more players it is not because of the work of the GMs.
The developers are responsible for that.

Its up to the GMs whether people decide to leave or to stay.

Re: Dyna, Dimond and (~_~#) got banned

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 19:36
by OnymA
Platyna wrote: Disgusting.

+1

:cry: :cry: :cry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqidM_U9rgU :cry: :cry: :cry:

Re: Dyna, Dimond and (~_~#) got banned

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 01:34
by kai_62656
Uber_Kalimero wrote:
Platyna wrote:Disgusting.
Yes, probably ...
Me too. btw this is not the first time Dimond has been acting like this...

Re: Dyna, Dimond and (~_~#) got banned

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 01:52
by Dimond
Not the first time...?
Erm... acting like what?
Oh... An congratulations! This flamin' thread has reached over 1000 views and 100 replies! Wow.. flame wars sure are popular. :P

Re: Dyna, Dimond and (~_~#) got banned

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 02:00
by kai_62656
Dimond wrote:Not the first time...?
Erm... acting like what?
Oh... An congratulations! This flamin' thread has reached over 1000 views and 100 replies! Wow.. flame wars sure are popular. :P
Lol Dimond you know, what you said a while ago about "against the GM's" or something like that when the 1 2 3 stuff was in town?

Re: Dyna, Dimond and (~_~#) got banned

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 08:15
by Rotonen
If this is so hard:

Let's shut down the server and only let devs to the new test server to test bugs until the game is complete.

This is starting to drain our resources of actually making the game. Both time and mental effort are running out.

Re: Dyna, Dimond and (~_~#) got banned

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 09:49
by Platyna
Rotonen wrote:If this is so hard:

Let's shut down the server and only let devs to the new test server to test bugs until the game is complete.

This is starting to drain our resources of actually making the game. Both time and mental effort are running out.
It of course does drain your resources, now.

It was everything fine when there was one Platyna & one Rotonen to deal with community issues and open server, and there were developers who were developing and programming, instead messing up with the community and chosing GMs.

I don't like the fact Jaxad, who is supposed to be coding the game, is now made a server admin.

We had pretty nice organization like a year ago:

Under Bjorn's control:
- Programmers were programming...
- Artists were drawing...

Under Platyna's control:
- Moderators were moderating...
- GMs were dealing with the community.
- Server was crashing maybe once a month. :twisted:

But it was too good. So it had to be destroyed, those who wanted more power (e.g. Jaxad and Crush) were digging and digging, so two friends who basicaly were keeping this project when Elven became inactive, now hates each other.

The efects are visible. This is not TMW anymore.

Regards.

Re: Dyna, Dimond and (~_~#) got banned

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 10:00
by Katze
It is not only black and white. The community has now at least three times as many players as when Platyna left - 1000 a day. I'm not saying that it is because the current GMs/system is so much better or anything. But the number of players is a factor that mustn't be ignored when talking about what became of the game...

but this doesn't really belong here, I suppose...;)

Re: Dyna, Dimond and (~_~#) got banned

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 10:22
by Platyna
Huh? The increase of players since I left is neglible (which is also interesting, he, he). We had 100-120 online most of the day anyway. What are you trying to pull here? That the old system wouldn't handle 20 players more online?

Regards.

Re: Dyna, Dimond and (~_~#) got banned

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 10:51
by Katze
I had the empression that it were 100 more than before. As far as I remember there were 50 online on average. But I can be mistaken.

The reason why I'm saying this is that I often feel you seem to forget the increase of the number of players and to include it in your posts. It was just a detection. Not an evaluation of the fact that we have more players now. :idea:

Re: Dyna, Dimond and (~_~#) got banned

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 13:10
by Jaxad0127
Platyna wrote:I don't like the fact Jaxad, who is supposed to be coding the game, is now made a server admin.
I never asked for it. I was chosen by others to admin while Bjorn would be away. I was away myself that weekend they decided on me.
Platyna wrote:those who wanted more power (e.g. Jaxad and Crush) were digging and digging
I didn't. And you can't prove it either.


As for the server crashing more, we have more people on. We're more popular and it has attracted elements that like to have fun crashing the server. We've also been experimenting with new features, like the magic system, which has a bug that is extremely hard to track, especially since it's only happening on the main server (like a lot of bugs, which is a fact you keep denying).

Re: Dyna, Dimond and (~_~#) got banned

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 13:58
by Black Don
Bjørn wrote: If you disagree with something a GM did, you can contact either another GM, or if that doesn't work either, me. That should be much more effective than launching a campaign to mock GMs and attempt to drive them from the game altogether (which really doesn't do their work justice).
problem #1- only 2 active GMs at this point
problem #2 - said GM's are in a relationship together thus creating a protectionist circle there.
problem #3 - you were gone
problem #4 - Jax does not act unless you light a fire under him


so this was the only avenue left to explore in in this situation.

Re: Dyna, Dimond and (~_~#) got banned

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 14:08
by Jaxad0127
Black Don wrote:
Bjørn wrote: If you disagree with something a GM did, you can contact either another GM, or if that doesn't work either, me. That should be much more effective than launching a campaign to mock GMs and attempt to drive them from the game altogether (which really doesn't do their work justice).
problem #1- only 2 active GMs at this point
problem #2 - said GM's are in a relationship together thus creating a protectionist circle there.
problem #3 - you were gone
problem #4 - Jax does not act unless you light a fire under him


so this was the only avenue left to explore in in this situation.
p #1 - You're only making this worse.
p #3 - So, he can't have vacations?
p #4 - What did you want from me?

Re: Dyna, Dimond and (~_~#) got banned

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 14:22
by melkior
jaxad0127 wrote: p #1 - You're only making this worse.
p #3 - So, he can't have vacations?
p #4 - What did you want from me?
#1 - impossible
#2 - he didn't say that and you know he didn't. don't twist words
#4 - common sense

Re: Dyna, Dimond and (~_~#) got banned

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 14:30
by Jaxad0127
melkior wrote:
jaxad0127 wrote: p #1 - You're only making this worse.
p #3 - So, he can't have vacations?
p #4 - What did you want from me?
#1 - impossible
#2 - he didn't say that and you know he didn't. don't twist words
#4 - common sense
#4 - like say, getting all the facts before acting?