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Re: Melkior for GM

Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 19:33
by AnonDuck
A pretty resounding yes here. Melkior has been around forever and has proved himself to be quite level-headed and trustworthy.

He's also technically inclined and familiar with the workings of TMW. This knowledge will allow him to spot bots that many others would not notice.

Re: Melkior for GM

Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 19:54
by WildX
MadCamel wrote:A pretty resounding yes here. Melkior has been around forever and has proved himself to be quite level-headed and trustworthy.

He's also technically inclined and familiar with the workings of TMW. This knowledge will allow him to spot bots that many others would not notice.
Like that tree bot in the middle of Hurnscald. :alt-7:

Re: Melkior for GM

Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 22:41
by SudoPlatypus
Voted yes.

If successful, does Confused Tree become Game Master Tree?

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Re: Melkior for GM

Posted: 25 Jul 2013, 00:33
by Chicka-Maria
.:WildX:. wrote:This is the list of active GMs. 5 out of 6 are in America, one is in Europe. Another european GM is exactly what we need.
yes a European GM is needed, but in the time frame the others are not on.

But like I said before, my vote can change.

good luck!

regards,

Re: Melkior for GM

Posted: 25 Jul 2013, 10:58
by Dyna
Ok, Chicka-Maria, you aren't actually around in game as often as Melkior is. So how can you judge for yourself of when he is actually logged in? Like today, I am on in game and there is no GM around but however Melkior is logged in and sitting under the tree.

Sure he is around when there are other GMs on but the more important fact is that he is on when there aren't GMs around as well. It just means he is a player who is on the game often...so how is that a bad thing?

Re: Melkior for GM

Posted: 25 Jul 2013, 16:45
by Chicka-Maria
Dyna wrote:Ok, Chicka-Maria, you aren't actually around in game as often as Melkior is. So how can you judge for yourself of when he is actually logged in? Like today, I am on in game and there is no GM around but however Melkior is logged in and sitting under the tree.

Sure he is around when there are other GMs on but the more important fact is that he is on when there aren't GMs around as well. It just means he is a player who is on the game often...so how is that a bad thing?
actually I am around but at night time my time when there is no GMs online except for maybe mistergrey sometimes. So I do believe I know what I am talking about.

I never said it was a bad thing lol but we in fact do need a GM covering time zones other GMs are not covering.


IMO: it would also be nice to see melkiors view of his poll as well. and Possibly get his answers on the GM questionnaire.

regards,

Re: Melkior for GM

Posted: 25 Jul 2013, 17:01
by WildX
I've logged in three times today at different hours of the day, I didn't see a single GM. Melkior was always there. The same thing happened yesterday, when I logged in once, and many other times in the past few weeks (I don't log in very often though). I'm in the same time zone as Melkior's.

Re: Melkior for GM

Posted: 25 Jul 2013, 19:44
by melkior
Chicka-Maria wrote: IMO: it would also be nice to see melkiors view of his poll as well. and Possibly get his answers on the GM questionnaire.
I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by seeing my view of the poll. I have already posted in this thread:
http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopi ... 33#p136633

I can easily post the answers to the questionnaire but I think it'd be far more useful for people who are unsure to just talk to me. I'm sure that would give them a better picture than some generic questionnaire that's gotten every imaginable answer up to this point.

As for the time I spend in the game... Yes, I'm sometimes on late for my timezone, which amounts to daytime in American timezones. But most of my active time is spent during CET daytime — morning, noon and afternoon. During that time, there are either no GMs, or just Silent Dawn is online, which is normal, since she's the only European GM. Since you are not usually online during that time, it easily explains why you might think I'm online only when other GMs are around.

And of course, if I was to become a GM, I'd make an additional effort to spend more time in the game when other GMs aren't around, as I'm sure most GMs try to.

I hope this alleviates most of your questions and concerns. And like I said, if you really insist, I can answer the questionnaire, but I don't think it'll provide more info than just taking a couple of minutes to talk to me.

Re: Melkior for GM

Posted: 25 Jul 2013, 23:33
by Chicka-Maria
somehow i missed your post which changes a few things, though i still insist on the questionnaire to see where your priorities would lay.

You did say in the post you linked you would do it if someone would insist. I'm insisting to see your way of thinking when it comes to discipline. Of course It's not needed if you insist not to. But it would be nice to see.

regards,

Re: Melkior for GM

Posted: 26 Jul 2013, 07:40
by melkior
Chicka-Maria wrote:You did say in the post you linked you would do it if someone would insist. I'm insisting to see your way of thinking when it comes to discipline.
Very well. I resisted posting this because I felt four pages of answers, including some by current or past GMs have devalued this questionnaire.
1. What is the best way to help a new player who just started playing the game in your opinion (when you are not a game master but just a normal player)?
I have always felt the best way to help new players is information. A long time ago, information was scarce and new players needed a lot of help, or protection to reach certain areas. Things have changed in the past few years, though. The wiki is well-maintained and the starting area provides new players with an actual crash course of the game.

Handing out items to newbies isn't as helpful as it used to be. Items are much easier to get these days, and it's important for new players to feel like they've accomplished something by getting them by themselves — it's what makes them stick around.

So, what I do these days is answer their questions, point them to the wiki in case I don't know the answer to something off the top of my head, and offer to give them a tour.
2. When you would have the ability to spawn items using a GM command, who would get what from you?
No one, including myself. I don't think this answer needs more clarification.
3. You are a GM, get online and immediately receive reports about these behaviors by different players about different players. Please order them by your priority in dealing with them:
-advertisement for other servers
-botting
-insults
-not speaking english in public
-scamming
-spamming
The first thing I'd do is check if there was another GM around so we can split these between us and deal with everything more quickly. If that turns out not to be the case, then this is the order in which I'd proceed:
-scamming
-botting
-insults
-not speaking English in public
-spamming
-advertisement for other servers (if it's being spammed or players are getting unwanted whispers)

I'd like to explain my answer. A quick glance around the Court House shows that botting is not as common as it used to be. Botters rarely partake in the activity only once, and they eventually get caught. While I hate to see botting as much as the next player (this doesn't include useful bots like Guild, ManaMarket and AuctionBot and useless but hopefully fun bots like the Confused Tree), I don't consider it an immediate threat to any other player — that lowers the priority of looking into that for me. GMs are around to make the gaming experience pleasant for players and scamming is a direct attack against another player, one where the victim actually loses something. This is why this would be my priority in such a situation, not to mention that scamming is something you'd need to deal with quickly if you want to get to the bottom of things.

The server does a pretty good job of dealing with spammers, and players can ignore people who are insulting them — that doesn't meant I wouldn't act in those situations, just that I have certain priorities. As for the English in public rule, for a start, it would be easy to issue a global announcement to remind players about that rule while dealing with other problems.
4. A player disagrees with your decisions and starts to insult you in public. How would you react?
I'd react in the same way I'd react if the player was insulting another player. I'd be polite about it, warn him, eventually kick him if warnings don't help, and if that doesn't help, ban him for a short time (1 or 2 days) so he can cool down. Before that ban, I would direct him to a higher authority if he really feels I was wrong and thinks he has a case. If another GM or admin was online, I might decide to call him in to mediate, if I thought that was necessary.

A lot of these questions are rather generic, and for every of these situations, there are different scenarios how things could play out, and that could easily affect my priorities.

I don't believe there's a template that acts as an ultimate answer to the priorities question. Each player will consider the problem she or he encounters as the most important one. So, question number 3 isn't just about dealing with those problems, but it's also about reassuring the players reporting them.

Like I said, the context of the reported issue would strongly affect my priorities (i.e. While someone repeatedly asking a player "What's your password?" might be considered a scammer, even if only just, and I ranked scamming first on the list, in that scenario, I'd be all over the potential bot first. :alt-3:).

I know, I know... a wall of text. I'm sorry. But I'm taking this rather seriously and if I'm already answering the questionnaire, I wanted to do it in a manner that'll allow people to understand more about how I think.

Thank you for taking your time to read this.

Re: Melkior for GM

Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 14:57
by Frost
Melkior is one of those rare people who thinks before he talks. And he sure knows how to talk!
His sense of humor is stronger than his sense of smell. And he sure smells!
His programming skill is greater than his singing ability. And he can sure rock the mic!
His joy from the game is greater than his joy from [edit: this is a family game]. And he sure likes to [redacted]!

Well, he's basically a good fellow who enjoys TMW and the people who play it. His "Confused Tree" has brought joy to many players. He's been a long-time player who likes giving back to our great community. As GM, he could give back in new ways.

As a player, I get a lot of laughs from his Confused Tree. I've have great conversations with Melkior himself. I've talked with people who know him well, like Dyna, Elench, and Hrvoje. He's a solid guy with solid judgement who wants to see the game continue to grow.
As an admin, I work closely with our GM team, and I am excited that Melkior might join that crew. I trust his word, his judgement, and his ability to work in a team.

Without reservations, "Yes."

Re: Melkior for GM

Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 15:00
by Villain
I think Melkior would be a good GM for many of the reasons already given. I don't see him as often as many of you do due to time differences so my interaction with him has mostly been limited to conversations with Confused Tree. The only thing that worries me is that it seems many GMs are non-existent in game lately and Melkior recently returned to TMW from a long absence. We don't need another GM who doesn't show up to ban me when needed
*stares at Big Crunch and mrgrey and Tiana and AlOnS* :alt-7:

Re: Melkior for GM

Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 19:24
by Cassy
Well, I don't know what to say anymore since everything's already said.

Of course I also voted for him.
I can just encourage other people to also vote for him so he gets the required votes ASAP - we need such a GM (timezone + his personality = win).

Re: Melkior for GM

Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 02:25
by Syzlack
Well, As WildX pointed before it will be a good addition on having a GM from Europe due time zone difference. Honestly, I don't know him personally neither in game, but based on the previous comments of the people that I know and their good judgment I will vote yes!

You got my vote pal! :alt-6:

Re: Melkior for GM

Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 20:28
by Zopar
I think Melkior would be a good GM, I vote yes... and also because i want to see my gorilla face again on a post :lol: