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Re: Copyright issues

Posted: 10 Apr 2015, 10:11
by Siegfried
Cassy wrote:Isn't that a good idea and the first thing to do?
Definitely.

Just don't be disappointed if tmw does not get a permission for free. And you're right: That trollface is everywhere in the internet. And that's the reason why the creator of this little icon still makes between 5000 and 10000 USD out of it :) So don't be surprised or dsappointed if using that troll face costs a fee.

If that fee is a one-time fee, i would consider offering about 1USD for it, although i never used that emoticon myself. But i would prefere to see this emoticon replaced.

Re: Copyright issues

Posted: 10 Apr 2015, 10:19
by Reid
Cassy wrote:
DragonStar wrote:Has anyone in the TMWC contacted the creator of the trollface emoticon to ask for permission to use it in Manaplus? If not, then I think that would be a good idea. If he gives permission, then there wouldn't be a copyright problem.
Isn't that a good idea and the first thing to do?
Not in that case, the "creator" want to make money out of it. If he accepts to release it under the GPL or CC licence, he looses everything.

Re: Copyright issues

Posted: 10 Apr 2015, 12:22
by Mikko
It has already been two days since this thread started and it hasn't been removed yet, what?
We don't have the rights to use trollface(as Duck up as it may seem) so we can't legally distribute it and no we're never going to get permission to distribute it under GPLv2 so stop dreaming about it.

Re: Copyright issues

Posted: 10 Apr 2015, 13:13
by Siegfried
a) Your forecast is probably right.
b) Nevertheless this is not necessarily a reason not to ask.
c) This is definitely no reason to remove this thread.

It is up to the community to discuss if it is worth the effort to ask, although there is nearly no chance to get a satisfying result. And maybe this thread is encouraging some tmw artists to create an own tmw trollface? What about converting a MOB (Yeti or Zombie) head to an emoticon to replace trollface?

Re: Copyright issues

Posted: 10 Apr 2015, 16:50
by Mikko
You can discuss your options AFTER its been removed when we're not actively infringing copyright laws.

Re: Copyright issues

Posted: 10 Apr 2015, 19:42
by wushin
4144 removed it. https://bitbucket.org/akaras/manaplus/c ... ef04f8a283

Reid- 4144 Cassy Meko How about we hold a contest to replace it with something chosen by the community? I can pitch in like $10-15 bucks towards who ever wins, Sure we could get a few more people to toss the winners (possibly runners up) some loot. Could even coordinate with OGA maybe?

Re: Copyright issues

Posted: 10 Apr 2015, 20:14
by Cassy
wushin wrote:Reid- 4144 Cassy Meko How about we hold a contest to replace it with something chosen by the community? I can pitch in like $10-15 bucks towards who ever wins, Sure we could get a few more people to toss the winners (possibly runners up) some loot. Could even coordinate with OGA maybe?
Sounds good to me.

Re: Copyright issues

Posted: 12 Apr 2015, 02:15
by SudoPlatypus
Mana trolls are special enough to keep in house (even though they are not litter trained).

Re: Copyright issues

Posted: 12 Apr 2015, 13:40
by Reid
wushin wrote:4144 removed it. https://bitbucket.org/akaras/manaplus/c ... ef04f8a283

Reid- 4144 Cassy Meko How about we hold a contest to replace it with something chosen by the community? I can pitch in like $10-15 bucks towards who ever wins, Sure we could get a few more people to toss the winners (possibly runners up) some loot. Could even coordinate with OGA maybe?
It should fit for every project which use manaplus.

Re: Copyright issues

Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 03:44
by Rawng
Image

What about this? Adapted from current sprite sheet. CC / edits welcome if it's useable.

Re: Copyright issues

Posted: 14 Apr 2015, 16:50
by wushin
Cleaned it up a bit. Still needs finishing.

Re: Copyright issues

Posted: 14 Apr 2015, 16:52
by gumi
eww it was better before

Re: Copyright issues

Posted: 14 Apr 2015, 17:47
by SDN
I don't know if its considered as trollface but.... Nyahahahaha!

Re: Copyright issues

Posted: 14 Apr 2015, 17:48
by gumi
SDN wrote:I don't know if its considered as trollface but.... Nyahahahaha!
I LOVE it, it's perfect

Re: Copyright issues

Posted: 14 Apr 2015, 18:06
by Rawng
meko wrote:
SDN wrote:I don't know if its considered as trollface but.... Nyahahahaha!
I LOVE it, it's perfect
I have to agree, this one is quite good.