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i got it back, ty

This sort of favouritism should be shunned, and special treatment of users should be rejected in the name of equality. The unreleased items should have never been in the game, and nobody should have unreleased items.

I am against this biased favouritism and special treatment of users.

Kull wrote: This sort of favouritism should be shunned

i thought it was already? anyway having items on the database that only have one copy feels like a waste of resources - looking at all the effort that goes into wearables and the copyrights being open and stuff id like to ask those people owning unique items if they could live with them being available for all players in the future. It would be such a waste.

First if you think we were wrong make a poll, maybe it can be changed.
Second which is my preferred option, is do what Chay said, make them available for everyone. rewards for boss points is an old proposal, there are possibly other options too. I used to be against introducing old rares to the game, now that i got most of them and some of did took some effort, idm other people having the option of having them too for less effort. i still think that for some items the effort should be crazy to get them, but that they should be obtainable.

What's the purpose of all those hats that 99% of the online players nowadays don't have?
Is it their fault that they joined the game too late and they can't get them even if it costs them huge amounts of effort?
I agree with Chay & Nitayanda, old rares/hats or whatever you want to call them should be reintroduced again, they shouldn't be easy to get, but at least they'll be available for the newer generation of players.

and what about the players that actually bought them off other players? their efforts should go to waste because players are too lazy to earn gold?

Chicka

What about people that buy some stocks at the height of their price, moments before the price crashes back down? Is it unfair to them when people then buy those stocks at their new low price?

Just because at some point getting an item carried a large price tag it doesn't mean that item should never be any cheaper.

No efforts have gone to waste if unobtainable items are reintroduced. Those players payed for the prestige of owning extremely rare items and that can't be taken away from them. The argument to never let the items return into circulation is an argument to preserve that prestige into perpetuity. Essentially it is an argument to maintain the value of those players' investment at the expense of content in the game.

Read again, some us who got these items paying large sums of gold (look for the record of item sold on manamarket), are in favor of changing the current state of rares/unobtainable, it just became ridiculous to get some rares today.
I think people who are active in game, run candors/cindies/illia should be rewarded the most, these quests require team play and it confirms that they didn't get these points botting. like some old players got their large sums of gold.

yeah i hold the current record of boss points and got a bunch with other characters. but like i said i don't care much any more for what i'll get from it (i got most of the stuff i want), i care about other players who try to get rares but none is being sold or prices are crazy.

Rawng wrote:No efforts have gone to waste if unobtainable items are reintroduced. Those players payed for the prestige of owning extremely rare items and that can't be taken away from them. The argument to never let the items return into circulation is an argument to preserve that prestige into perpetuity. Essentially it is an argument to maintain the value of those players' investment at the expense of content in the game.

Yes their efforts have gone to waste if reintroduced, im sorry you see it a different way. But as one of those people who actually worked hard for their gold to get some of those items It is unfair if they were introduced again.

SriNitayanda wrote:Read again, some us who got these items paying large sums of gold (look for the record of item sold on manamarket), are in favor of changing the current state of rares/unobtainable, it just became ridiculous to get some rares today.
I think people who are active in game, run candors/cindies/illia should be rewarded the most, these quests require team play and it confirms that they didn't get these points botting. like some old players got their large sums of gold.

yeah i hold the current record of boss points and got a bunch with other characters. but like i said i don't care much any more for what i'll get from it (i got most of the stuff i want), i care about other players who try to get rares but none is being sold or prices are crazy.

And a lot of us who have and have not paid large sums of gold aren't in favour some wanna go through that path of being able to collect rares from other players and feel like they earned something. Not earning things then their sense of accomplishment is shattered due to rares being brought back because people dont wanna work for their rare items lol.

Anyway this was not the topic of this thread, Perhaps make a new one for this matter.

Chicka

What effort are you talking about Chicka-Maria?
Are talking about the rares that you got for 100K or a little bit more that now cost Millions or about the ones that you got from your friends?
Why do you even care, it's not like you play that much anymore.
There are some players that at least own over 10kk and 15kk Boss Points but they cant do anything with that, so they end up leaving the game.
I've seen so many leave just a few days after reaching Lvl 90, that's because they are out of goals and most of the quest in the game can be finished in less than a day.
You should stop being so selfish and let the newer players have a chance of getting what they want too.

soseki wrote:What effort are you talking about Chicka-Maria?
Are talking about the rares that you got for 100K or a little bit more that now cost Millions or about the ones that you got from your friends?
Why do you even care, it's not like you play that much anymore.
There are some players that at least own over 10kk and 15kk Boss Points but they cant do anything with that, so they end up leaving the game.
I've seen so many leave just a few days after reaching Lvl 90, that's because they are out of goals and most of the quest in the game can be finished in less than a day.
You should stop being so selfish and let the newer players have a chance of getting what they want too.

No I mean the ones i bought for millions and millions of gil from farming iron ore and selling dyes and trading rares for other rare items. Don't act like you know when you don't ^^ I spent most of my years in this game in the markets which is why I'm not even Lv99 yet xD. Also which is why i have rares that were introduced BEFORE I even joined the game that were worth millions. So don't try to tell me its impossible, people just need to have it as one of their goals and work on it and stop sitting in town. It's not selfish its something someone worked hard for and doesn't wanna see it just be handed out because people are too lazy to put back into the economy, believe it or not it HELPS when people make dyes/farm iron ore/coals/etc for gold.

The new players do have a chance they just have to work at it like some of us did.

Why is the people complaining about rares being rares? If everyone can have it playing an afternoon the existence of them would be meaningless and it's name should be changed to "cosmetic" I do not own many rare objects and most of them are cheap ones, but I'm okay of some of them being really hard to get and nearly impossible. That's the whole point of a "rare" object.

mas886 wrote:but I'm okay of some of them being really hard to get and nearly impossible. That's the whole point of a "rare" object.

+1

Cassy wrote:

mas886 wrote:but I'm okay of some of them being really hard to get and nearly impossible. That's the whole point of a "rare" object.

+1

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mas886 wrote:Why is the people complaining about rares being rares? If everyone can have it playing an afternoon the existence of them would be meaningless and it's name should be changed to "cosmetic" I do not own many rare objects and most of them are cheap ones, but I'm okay of some of them being really hard to get and nearly impossible. That's the whole point of a "rare" object.

Right now they are near impossible to get.
It is harder to find an actual seller than the rare itself.
Let's say that they are obtainable thorough a Boss Points Shop, would you really get 5000 BPoints in an afternoon. I don't want them to be that easy to get neither, but at least there should be a better option that buying them from players (most of them no longer play) and it will keep the game alive too, you would see more people hosting Krunkans, Candors, Cindies, etc.