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WildX wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 12:42

I'm just confused as to what the concern is. If we agree that people click on anything on the internet at their own risk and that we do have good intentions in the way we write our ToS, what's the problem exactly?

It's: "Advertising on platforms that may not have sane good intentions."

I'm not asking to kill TMW advertising but I'd love to see it done in a more responsible way.
In modern times of indiscriminate surveillance I know that I'm asking a lot, but please try.

That made me recall the LibreGaming guys. I hope this link can be useful: https://libregaming.org/game-launcher-concept/

My point is that your standards for privacy are so high that being that zealous would indeed kill marketing. Libre alternatives are often lower quality and not very popular. I tend to always favour libre software when it is functionally competitive, but the idea of advertising on strict libre principles is too limiting and frankly not in line with our principles. TMW is pro-Libre, not all-Libre.

WildX wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 13:33

My point is that your standards for privacy are so high that being that zealous would indeed kill marketing.

And it probably does as nowadays marketing mainly works by mining data and selling targeted ads. Are we here to play or sell something?

WildX wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 13:33

Libre alternatives are often lower quality and not very popular.

So it's TMW itself.

WildX wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 13:33

I tend to always favour libre software when it is functionally competitive [...]

What do you mean with "favour"? You favour libre software by installing GIMP because you don't want to pay for Adobe Photoshop?
Without real needs and contributors hardly libre software evolves into a better one. TMW is no exception.

WildX wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 13:33

[...] but the idea of advertising on strict libre principles is too limiting and frankly not in line with our principles. TMW is pro-Libre, not all-Libre.

Even not adding ads, porn, hentai, premium add-ons, blood, violence, profanity, tracking, trend analisys and whatsoever should be very limiting when it comes to marketing.
What if TMW doesn't sell?

Livio wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 19:10

What do you mean with "favour"? You favour libre software by installing GIMP because you don't want to pay for Adobe Photoshop?

Shame on you, our artists use Krita, not GIMP!

hmmm . does the discussion still have something to do with my original post?
i think the topic can be closed.