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Isn't what I said the same thing as your first example?

Goku wrote:Well of course anyone who's qualified should be able to be a GM. But I thought this poll was asking should an admin promote someone to be a GM just because he/she is family.

Then it should say that. The poll is ambiguous. Fate's poll is better.

Goku wrote:Isn't what I said the same thing as your first example?

misunderstandig

Misunderstanding* I am Mr Correct today.

According to the Old Greeks Syllogism Principle (yes, they teach you THAT in Police Schools ):
"Katze deserves her promotion as a GM, but all GMs can't be promoted as Katze" ...

We love you Katze !

I don't think a admin should suggest a family member just because he likes him/her....But if he thinks the relative would do a good job....why not suggest...he can then be tested.

If a Admin suggest a relative even if that one lacks the skills to be GM....well, bad luck, he will fail (or else the game has a problem at a lower level). If this wrecks the relation, something is VERY bad in this relationship anyway...

If it works out.... it usualy means 2 people working very well together...and this usualy leads to better gaming for players..so its good.

In the end...GMs can only be found by test them (and from what i see in online games....about 90% fail the test). As long the testing works... its not that important who is suggested.

I didn't knew Katze is related to admins, but in this case it worked out. Katze is a great admin

When are we going to unsticky this poll? There are a few other things that are old and not relevant to player talk as a priority to read that are sticky. If we want to bump this poll up again, cool, but I think it has said all that needs to be said as a sticky and should be treated like a normal thread now.

I think you are right, Wombat.

Platyna wrote:As the topic says, do you think it is ever right for an admin to promote his family members such as a girlfriend for high positions such as GMs or moderators?

I don't want to start any flame war but I can't post locked poll, so just vote and do not post (I will delete all posting made here).

s/for/to/

BTW, this phenonema has its own name: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism

Regards.

NO. NO. NO.

They will be promoted only if they have made a big contribution help to other players, specially to the newbies. Like wherever he goes, he always help others for good. Not like your a friend or family to be promoted. That's unfair. Just reverse the situation and think.

Actually more like these conditions:

1) We decide we need a new GM.
2) We decide someone can be trusted.

Simple.

1) You make Damis a Canadian GM.
2) You know I'm trusted.

Ðamis™ wrote:1) You make Damis a Canadian GM.
2) You know I'm trusted.

1)Don't make Damis a GM, please.
2) You know I don't trust him.

But you need a new GM(Katze) So if Platyna is a good GM and if katze be a GM and Platyna go off of the game why do you need katze as Gm if you have Platyna?!?
We had 1GM(Platyna) and when Katze joined the GM work Platyna has left...What do you win with that ?!?

Ssnake wrote:But you need a new GM(Katze) So if Platyna is a good GM and if katze be a GM and Platyna go off of the game why do you need katze as Gm if you have Platyna?!?
We had 1GM(Platyna) and when Katze joined the GM work Platyna has left...What do you win with that ?!?

I wasn't only a GM. I was also server admin, I took this work when no one else were interested at all (eg. our server simply has vanished for almost a month), also no one liked to be a moderator of a game that has like 5 users online at peak, but when the project became successful, suddenly everyone wanted to be server admin's, gms and moderators, and Bjorn under influence of those people stopped to respect me and my work, and I was clearly told I am obsolete and may go. ;)

Katze started to actively play this game and post on forums when she became a GM, so, even if she seems to be a kind person, she did nothing to actually deserve this function at all, and she was made a GM without any consultation with me, showing complete disrespect towards me, so it was the drop that overflowed the glass.

Regards.

Katze started to actively play this game and post on forums when she became a GM.

That's absolutely not true. I had been playing the game almost every day for about a year before I was made GM. I only didn't level very much, but hang out with people and chatted. Further, I had been the mascot of the HMC for about half a year.

But I didn't go to Platyna and said: "Hey! My name is Katze! I'm Bjørn's girlfriend!"

I only said yes because many people already knew me. When Bjørn asked me the first time - jokingly - some months before the actual "event", I said "no, of course not". But things had changed. And when he asked me the second time I thought about it and said that I could do it...

Above all, the devs seemed to know me too and had no objections. That is why...


It is true however, that I started posting on the forums only when I was made GM and maybe one time before that.