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Tintin wrote:HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

It humurs me to read all your bias answers ALL BIAS everyone , and so easy to pick. hehehe you stated your worldview through your answer or your answer through your worldview or you stated both but worldview and answer ALLWAYS match

I'll go in alpabetical order through some beliefs

Agnostic - Evolution or ID - Chicken First =\< Egg First
Atheist - Evolution - Chicken First < Egg First
Christian - Creation - Chicken First
Hindu - Creation ID or Evolution - Chicken First = Egg First
Muslim - Creation - Chicken First
New Age - ID or ID + evolution - Chicken or Egg First

there's more but can't be bothered so its simple ok all bias

Then give an unbiased answer.

There is no such thing as an unbiased answer everything anyone says in the whole world is determined in some way or another by their world view there is no such thing as an unbiased answer so i do not discuss facts and stuff I only discuss worldviews with people I don't try change people through facts and stuff because facts are determined by worldview

bottom line

I cannot answer and unbiased answer because it is impossible to make unbiased answers, so when you read anything you have to realize where the world view of the writer is whether it is movie or book or forums, and then find out what his worldview is why his worldview thinks that's like that and then decide if you will believe it its not about facts its about worldviews.

Tintin wrote:There is no such thing as an unbiased answer everything anyone says in the whole world is determined in some way or another by their world view there is no such thing as an unbiased answer so i do not discuss facts and stuff I only discuss worldviews with people I don't try change people through facts and stuff because facts are determined by worldview

So, why do you complain about bias when you say it's impossible to not be biased?

Tintin wrote:I cannot answer and unbiased answer because it is impossible to make unbiased answers, so when you read anything you have to realize where the world view of the writer is whether it is movie or book or forums, and then find out what his worldview is why his worldview thinks that's like that and then decide if you will believe it its not about facts its about worldviews.

Fact: 2 > 1. How does that change based on world view?

I am not complaining about bias I am just laughing how people love discussing stuff that is pointless to discuss because no matter how much you discuss it everyone will remain on the same belief because their worldviews aren't being changed

There are no such things as facts, facts are mental things made up by determining evidence and evidence is determined by your worldview, the only things that are actually facts are ones that are determined the same through all worldviews, like physics, or 1+1 does in fact =2, those are facts, beliefs cannot be facts because they are determined by worldview. I will make an example.

There is a animal in layers of strata and both a Creationist and Evolutionist go to study it, not the Creationist believes in 6000 years so he says nothing can be older then 6000 years, so he says this must have been buried sooner so it must have buried rapidly, i.e. a worldwide flood, a logical conclusion. Now the Evolutionist says no that is not right the world is Billions of years old and there was no worldwide flood so it must have been buried a long time ago over a long period of time because if it hadn't then it wouldn't work because if it was rapid then the entire world would be full of skeletons down to the magma, so that is also a logical conclusion to that worldview. Both worldviews cannot accept the other one because it does not fit with the worldview, so they shout at each other and claim "my one is fact yours is theory" even though the evidence is the same. So in reality they are BOTH not facts but rather conclusions based on evidence claimed to be fact and determined by their worldviews by both sides.

So in reality, you don't believe what you do because you choose to, you only believe it because it fits with your worldview.

I saw alot of creationism posts. And well i dont understand people when they say that. Like how can a superior force (whom we've never seen) can make something and then leave them to go and F**k up the planet they live on. (This is now going into our race humans) Like come on. And I guess it the same thing as people believing in aliens. They have to exxists becuase i highly doubt that Earth out of and the quadrillions of planets out there. Were the only ones that could make it and survive for hundreds of thousands of years. No..

By the way. This is my old account (trivium_9191) my new one is Irvine. So yea.

Good grief. The chicken or the egg. What a totally pointless discussion.

Anyway, the egg came first. Because the chicken must have come from a chicken's egg. It was hardly going to come from a tyrannosaurus, was it? Or an achaeopteryx. Whatever animal laid the egg, the animal that came out was a chicken. And there was an egg before it: the darned chicken came out of the darned thing!
Speaking of chickens, there should be farmyard animals in TMW. Cows, sheep, chickens. And you kill them and get milk, wool, eggs, feathers, beef, lamb, Plucked Chicken. O' course, the farmer might get cross.
So the egg, that was first. And the chicken came out of it.
Of course, creationists would say the chicken came first, because God made him. However, what if God just made an egg, and then let it hatch? By the way, people who believe in Noah's Ark: We must be really, really inbred. And how many darned insects were there on that boat?

~the egg came first.
Enchilado

And then God made the Chicken and saw it was good. It was SO good in fact he decided to make everything after the Chicken taste like it.

Enchilado! wrote:Speaking of chickens, there should be farmyard animals in TMW. Cows, sheep, chickens. And you kill them and get milk, wool, eggs, feathers, beef, lamb, Plucked Chicken. O' course, the farmer might get cross.

Some are being worked on.

Black Don wrote:And then God made the Chicken and saw it was good. It was SO good in fact he decided to make everything after the Chicken taste like it.

Ok, that was too funny.

Irvine wrote:I saw alot of creationism posts. And well i dont understand people when they say that. Like how can a superior force (whom we've never seen) can make something and then leave them to go and F**k up the planet they live on. (This is now going into our race humans) Like come on. And I guess it the same thing as people believing in aliens. They have to exxists becuase i highly doubt that Earth out of and the quadrillions of planets out there. Were the only ones that could make it and survive for hundreds of thousands of years. No..

By the way. This is my old account (trivium_9191) my new one is Irvine. So yea.

Enchilado! wrote:Good grief. The chicken or the egg. What a totally pointless discussion.

Anyway, the egg came first. Because the chicken must have come from a chicken's egg. It was hardly going to come from a tyrannosaurus, was it? Or an achaeopteryx. Whatever animal laid the egg, the animal that came out was a chicken. And there was an egg before it: the darned chicken came out of the darned thing!
Speaking of chickens, there should be farmyard animals in TMW. Cows, sheep, chickens. And you kill them and get milk, wool, eggs, feathers, beef, lamb, Plucked Chicken. O' course, the farmer might get cross.
So the egg, that was first. And the chicken came out of it.
Of course, creationists would say the chicken came first, because God made him. However, what if God just made an egg, and then let it hatch? By the way, people who believe in Noah's Ark: We must be really, really inbred. And how many darned insects were there on that boat?

~the egg came first.
Enchilado

HAHAHA It fail to amazes me how your satements are almost identical the the creationist staments yet you promote yours as the only logical one lol like I said you only think the egg came first BEACUSE of your WORLDVIEW that states the "THE ONLY REALITY IS THE NATURAL ONE" thus anything like "God" simply cannot be and you refuse to see anything that can esily be interpereted as evidence for God and say it can't be because he just can't exist no matter how much proof you got so you are equally as bias as the rest and yet even after i point it out still claim your not

This is turning into a theological debate! Okay, say God is real. Say he is. So what if I say: Oh God, if you are real, then strike me down where I stand! and nothing happens?
I'm not saying he isn't real. I'm not saying he is. This thread is about poultry breeding habits, not religion.

~I haven't been struck down yet.
Enchilado

Enchilado! wrote:Okay, say God is real. Say he is. So what if I say: Oh God, if you are real, then strike me down where I stand! and nothing happens?

That would assume that God not only exists but also takes orders from you.

Enchilado! wrote:This is turning into a theological debate! Okay, say God is real. Say he is. So what if I say: Oh God, if you are real, then strike me down where I stand! and nothing happens?
I'm not saying he isn't real. I'm not saying he is. This thread is about poultry breeding habits, not religion.

~I haven't been struck down yet.
Enchilado

no this is not about breeding poultry such a question is philosophy and theology and beginnings

and like Crush said you are tempting God and if he is who he claims to be, the WHY on Earth would someoen who created everything even think about playing your petty games? just to show how totally .... Not true your statement was. Hehehe.

ok lets talk about poultry breeding what is you favorite kind of chock? Have you heard of Golden leg bars? its when you cross a Bard Rock and a Black leghorn no this is not about poultry breeding

and don't use such terms as religion because religion covers everything from Atheism to Hinduism to Humanism to Naturalism to Supernaturalism to Islam to Aliens To Global Warming to Evolution to Creation to the Big Bang that is all discussing Religion

you mean more like

Theology
Philosophy
etc...

which is what I am talking about not Religion....

some people need to learn their terms and at least know something of all this

hehe lets see what Christianity says about you tempting God though fired up a online Bible search program and typed in "tempt God" got some results...

<< Luke 4:12 >>
And Jesus answered and said to him, "It is said, 'YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.'"

<< Matthew 4:7 >>
Jesus said to him, "On the other hand, it is written, 'YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.'"

<< Deuteronomy 6:16 >>
"You shall not put the LORD your God to the test, as you tested Him at Massah.

<< Psalm 78:56 >>
Yet they tempted and rebelled against the Most High God And did not keep His testimonies,

<< Malachi 3:15 >>
And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are built up; yea, they tempt God, and escape.

there ya go

I'm liking this post. But how can someone prove god exists? No one! What if he is just some old guy on the street you walk by everyday. Everyone says his name in vain so that proves that either he doesn't give a Chocolate Cupcake anymore or that he just doesn't exist.

But! What are your veiws on heaven and hell?

Irvine wrote:I'm liking this post. But how can someone prove god exists? No one! What if he is just some old guy on the street you walk by everyday. Everyone says his name in vain so that proves that either he doesn't give a **** anymore or that he just doesn't exist.

But! What are your veiws on heaven and hell?

You are correct you can not prove their is God, but likewise you can not disprove their is God, so it remains a belief because it is unprovable the he exists or doesn't exist.

<< Malachi 3:15 >>
And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are built up; yea, they tempt God, and escape.

well, look it says there "yea, they tempt God, and escape." So according to the Bible you escape for now, but... I think if an almighty God does exist he won't be to pleased will he? So maybe that is what Hell is for?? hmm???

Good game! Sure god would get mad for not following his will people can't live with people. Everyone has their own opions such as this. People stick by their beliefs and they won't change that for anyone in the world. So it I were to disobay this "god" figure I would evidentally end up hell? Who can live a life with out sin. That would make hell a place over risen and over populated and a place where people fight and where war rages through country sides killing everyone. Is that not our planet now? Are we not ironically living I this hell we talk about?