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Amun wrote:

Joser93 wrote:

Amun wrote:Everyone makes mistakes.

Why so serious?

He didn't make a mistake, he knew that he can hack people, he knew that his behavior it wrong, he knew all the wrong things taht he did...

So... he didn't make any mistake!!!

Made a mistake in moral judgement. Didn't Jesus say you should forgive?

Amun wrote:Everyone makes mistakes.

Jesus wrote: Our Father, which art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name;
thy kingdom come;
thy will be done,
in earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive them that trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation;
but deliver us from evil.
[For thine is the kingdom,
the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever.]
Amen.

Jesus wrote: And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive them that trespass against us.

baseballboy wrote:

Jesus wrote: Our Father, which art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name;
thy kingdom come;
thy will be done,
in earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive them that trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation;
but deliver us from evil.
[For thine is the kingdom,
the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever.]
Amen.

Did you notice the:

Jesus wrote: And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive them that trespass against us.

And yes i am a Christian, and i will not deny it.

Joser93 wrote:

baseballboy wrote:

Jesus wrote: Our Father, which art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name;
thy kingdom come;
thy will be done,
in earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive them that trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation;
but deliver us from evil.
[For thine is the kingdom,
the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever.]
Amen.

Did you notice the:

Jesus wrote: And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive them that trespass against us.

And yes i am a Christian, and i will not deny it.

if you relly a re a Christian, then admit all that you did against us; and of course mention all that you did to our friends!!!!

although i have done this on several occations here goes another one:

Several months ago i started a server out of fun, one day got bored so i decided to see if i could get on anyones account when i got on the account i took several items from many people. from many of my friends, i know what i did was wrong and i am sorry. I hope that some of you may forgive me, sometime in the near future.

Joser93 wrote:

although i have done this on several occations here goes another one:

Several months ago i started a server out of fun, one day got bored so i decided to see if i could get on anyones account when i got on the account i took several items from many people. from many of my friends, i know what i did was wrong and i am sorry. I hope that some of you may forgive me, sometime in the near future.

that's all that you did???

i don't think so... are a lot of things that you have to confess

baseballboy wrote:

Joser93 wrote:

although i have done this on several occations here goes another one:

Several months ago i started a server out of fun, one day got bored so i decided to see if i could get on anyones account when i got on the account i took several items from many people. from many of my friends, i know what i did was wrong and i am sorry. I hope that some of you may forgive me, sometime in the near future.

that's all that you did???

i don't think so... are a lot of things that you have to confess

err.. what else did i do exactly? cause i have no idea what you are talking about.

baseballboy wrote:i know what i did was wrong and i am sorry. I hope that some of you may forgive me, sometime in the near future.

swimmy wrote:

baseballboy wrote:i know what i did was wrong and i am sorry. I hope that some of you may forgive me, sometime in the near future.

Some of us dont want you to come back as far as I can see.
If you are still sorry, you know what we want you to.

baseballboy wrote:ugh Frictor made it abundantly clear, i didnt steal you art, we happen to Draw something similar. And about the killing of people that was my brother not me...

swimmy wrote:
baseballboy wrote:
i know what i did was wrong and i am sorry. I hope that some of you may forgive me, sometime in the near future.

Some of us dont want you to come back as far as I can see.
If you are still sorry, you know what we want you to.

Well obviously some people want me look at the few votes of people that want me back

frictor wrote:Ok, aside from the childish name-calling and what-not, here's my understanding of what happened so far. It has been formed from conversations with both parties.

1.) Jose came up with an idea for using the dark crystals in the Crystal City somehow, I'm not exactly sure what he intended when he told me this, but I was thinking along the lines of the movie "The Dark Crystal". I am now aware that he may have been thinking of this shield idea.
2.) I told Jose to post the idea in the topic I use for my art work and ideas.
3.) B3 was in the area when I told him to do this, and had been asking about an idea of his a few minutes prior. Some confusion resulted. This confusion resulted in B3's post in the topic I mentioned above.
4.) The next day Jose came to me with an idea for a teardrop shaped kite shield, that he wanted to make from cobalt ores and dark crystals. I tried to help him out with it, but since we were both in game at the time, he had to PM me with the images he was working from. I have that PM available for the GMs if they need it.
5.) Today, well, a whole new problem erupted after Jose saw B3's post in the topic mentioned above. This resulted in the altercation between the two of them. My IRC conversations with both follows, as does my conversation with Jose in game as of today.
Quote:
[18:22] *** JoseRoberto (i=c9c705b5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-317ddfe77222ae67) has joined #aethyra
[18:23] <JoseRoberto> hi frictor
[18:23] [Frictor] Hello Jose.
[18:23] [Frictor] Hello Rod.
[18:23] <JoseRoberto> i have a problem with my shield
[18:24] [Frictor] Oh?
[18:24] *** rodrigo14 (i=aa336f05@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d0314b383ebe60f5) has quit IRC [Client Quit]
[18:24] [Frictor] What does it look like so far?
[18:24] <JoseRoberto> baseballboy want to stole my idea
[18:24] [Frictor] Doh.
[18:24] [Frictor] He had a shield idea, but not that same design.
[18:25] <JoseRoberto> but i am on it
[18:25] <JoseRoberto> also call me loser
[18:25] [Frictor] on your shield, or his?
[18:25] <Tametomo> His shield idea looked exactly like the shield we're already using within our logo. I didn't see what was different about Baseball's other than changing the colors
[18:25] [Frictor] Agreed Tame.
[18:26] <JoseRoberto> ok, i post it
[18:26] [Frictor] Yours, on the other hand, Jose, was a teardrop shaped.
[18:26] [Frictor] Which would be interesting at least.
[18:26] [Frictor] And a nice change from the existing design.
[18:26] <JoseRoberto> well
[18:26] <JoseRoberto> it so good
[18:29] [Frictor] ... Tame, that weapon box is still a royal pain in the patoot.
[18:29] *** rodrigo14 (i=aa336f05@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-740823a46c6e9211) has joined #aethyra
[18:30] <rodrigo14> hi all
[18:30] [Frictor] wb Rod
[18:30] <rodrigo14> thanks frictor
[18:31] <rodrigo14> hi jose
[18:33] <rodrigo14> my network is bad
[18:33] <rodrigo14> :/
[18:46] *** BaseBallBoy (i=4b5b15de@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7255f26c5aba7de7) has joined #aethyra
[18:52] [Frictor] Hello B3.
[18:52] [Frictor] I hear you're trying to take Jose's idea?
[18:53] <BaseBallBoy> actual i wasnt
[18:53] <BaseBallBoy> i have know idea what he is even talking about
[18:54] [Frictor] Heh.
[18:54] <BaseBallBoy> i just drew up a pic and posted it, no theft involved
[18:54] [Frictor] agreed.
[18:54] [Frictor] And your idea came before he informed me of his concerning a shield.
[18:54] <BaseBallBoy> finally some1 believes me
[18:55] <BaseBallBoy> thx u 4 telling methat
[18:55] [Frictor] But, I think he might be perceiving the fact that you both came up with shield ideas within a day or so of each other.
[18:55] [Frictor] As being an issue.
[18:56] <BaseBallBoy> i thought for theshield to be an icon or something that was all nothing more
[18:56] [Frictor] Also, my perspective, is that you and Jose had different shield designs, so even if you did both make a shield, it would be two separate ones, instead of a single shield.
[18:57] <BaseBallBoy> yeah
[18:57] [Frictor] If he disagrees, he's free to let me know.
[18:57] [Frictor] And explain his point of view a little better.
[18:58] <BaseBallBoy> all i did was log on and he started calling me a "stoleman" (whatever that means) and i gave him some "???"
[18:58] <BaseBallBoy> and acused me of takin his idea
[18:59] [Frictor] You both had similar ideas at about the same time, that's all I see.
[18:59] <BaseBallBoy> i know
[18:59] [Frictor] But the designs you were going to use were completely different.
[18:59] <BaseBallBoy> but really the only thing the same is that they are both shields
[18:59] <BaseBallBoy> im mean really
[19:08] <BaseBallBoy> G2G BYE BYE EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

BaseBallBoy wrote:i took several items from many people. from many of my friends

baseballboy wrote:Well obviously some people want me look at the few votes of people that want me back

swimmy wrote:

baseballboy wrote:Well obviously some people want me look at the few votes of people that want me back

But people who voted "No." are more than "yes"