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Re: [DIS] Castle Walls
Posted: 21 Oct 2011, 20:53
by i
Ali-G wrote:@Irukard: Thank you for having a try to make the depth for the big, empty archway. That really helps.
Is it deep enough or you need deeper one? :P
Btw I still hate this one brick thin fence. It sucks.
Re: [DIS] Castle Walls
Posted: 21 Oct 2011, 21:10
by Alige
A lot deeper please. We need to see how thick the wall is.
Re: [DIS] Castle Walls
Posted: 21 Oct 2011, 21:21
by i
Ali-G wrote:A lot deeper please. We need to see how thick the wall is.
Is that enough? It's thick as wall + front support
Re: [DIS] Castle Walls
Posted: 21 Oct 2011, 21:26
by pateame
i wrote:Btw I still hate this one brick thin fence. It sucks.
Agree with that. Some ideas to use that archway: we could reuse them as a stone bridge if we surround the castle with water.
Some references from google:

Re: [DIS] Castle Walls
Posted: 21 Oct 2011, 21:34
by Alige
@Peteame: great idea... Well I don't have the ability to make them, I'm not even a pixel artist, maybe you could have a try.
@Irukard: Thanks a lot, looks great.
@Everyone: We still need to fix the grass that needs to be of the
same height on every tile and we need to make all the wooden parts of these two tileset use the
same color palette, that is really
important. Here are the two last versions of the tilesets.

Re: [DIS] Castle Walls
Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 08:02
by Crush
Nice to see that this tileset is making such a good progress and is getting close to being released, but has anyone planned a scenario we could use it for?
Re: [DIS] Castle Walls
Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 08:03
by Alige
Crush wrote:Nice to see that this tileset is making such a good progress and is getting close to being released, but has anyone planned a scenario we could use it for?
I do but we currently have too much to do. My original intention was to motivate pixel artists in a random project. It seems I reached my goal.
Re: [DIS] Castle Walls
Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 08:54
by Jenalya
Ali-G wrote:Crush wrote:Nice to see that this tileset is making such a good progress and is getting close to being released, but has anyone planned a scenario we could use it for?
I do but we currently have too much to do. My original intention was to motivate pixel artists in a random project. It seems I reached my goal.
I think we will certainly find a use for it sooner or later. I wonder if it'd be possible to have an additional tileset with snow coverings for the walls and the ground that can be combined with the general castle tileset. If so, I'd like to use this for the Wizard Tower Scenario in Kazei (snow area). But based on the current storyline and release plans, it'd be located behind the barbarian village in the snow mountains, so I'd be very happy about some motivation for that project as well.

Re: [DIS] Castle Walls
Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 10:13
by Alige
What I Just Did: Major update of castle-2.png tileset. Fixed the grass.
Fixes Needed: The wooden ground needs to differ a bit more from the wooden borders. The bench, wooden pots and doors need to be about the same color.
In The Futur: When we'll be done fixing the wooden parts, we'll be able to create peteame's idea and maybe create new fringe items such as giant crossbows to defend the castle from its walls.

Re: [DIS] Castle Walls
Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 11:59
by i
MerlinX420 wrote:Also the 2nd round wall it to make inverse turns. (Pic is an example of useage. The one on the right is the additional one and the one on the left is the original)
Those tiles already exist since Block Walls 0.0.7 (3 X 2010). Example:

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Ali-G wrote:(...) new fringe items such as giant crossbows to defend the castle from its walls.
May we place them as NPC's or stationary enemy with long range atack? That would be fun- being killed by balista.
I did mention it on in-game chat - we should discuss using gunpowder propelled weapons in TMW realm. Also we can create secondary realm - with technology instead magic and alchemy. Sounds familiar? yep, FF6.
Crush wrote:Nice to see that this tileset is making such a good progress and is getting close to being released, but has anyone planned a scenario we could use it for?
Yes. I got one scenario - Academy building in CR1 :P but I also need nice looking cliffs and integrate them into bottom of stone wall. It should seamlessly transfer from rocky cliff to stone wall.
I'm considering using Len's desert cliffs. Color palette is very close.

Re: [DIS] Castle Walls
Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 12:38
by Alige
For now, could we just focus on making the idea peateame had and also fixing the wooden parts? When these two things will be done, we'll be able to push the tileset. After that, we could make different versions with snow or desert parts.
Re: [DIS] Castle Walls
Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 18:17
by o11c
Crush wrote:Nice to see that this tileset is making such a good progress and is getting close to being released, but has anyone planned a scenario we could use it for?
I can certainly see possibilities when I have time for tmwA-Adventures.
Re: [DIS] Castle Walls
Posted: 23 Oct 2011, 06:54
by Alige
Updated the wood in castle-2.png
I think that we can now push these two tilesets: castle-1.png and castle-2.png. The banners are done. If we come up with other things, we can still put some in the castle-2.png tileset because there are 12 free tiles in that tileset. If we come up with larger things, more important tiles such as stone integrated into the cliff, T shaped walls, balistas, aqueduc tiles which means also stone stuck the deep water, snow on buildings, etc..., we can still make another tileset, that isn't a problem.

Re: [DIS] Castle Walls
Posted: 23 Oct 2011, 09:12
by Unwelcome
there is so much awesome content in this thread it's mind-blowing. wish I was a quarter as good as you guys
Re: [DIS] Castle Walls
Posted: 23 Oct 2011, 11:16
by i
Unwelcome wrote:there is so much awesome content in this thread it's mind-blowing. wish I was a quarter as good as you guys
Read tutorials and practice.
EDIT:
To avoid double posting. Here is rough concept of Arch Bridge. Is shape good enough?

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EDIT:
As Ali-G wanted - the bridge will be made of the same material as block walls. Will be fully compatible with existing tileset. And of course will be usable above land and water. Blue pylons are detachable and separate unit.

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