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Thanks - you read with an online translator?

I searched for this quotes in english language, but i don't found them, so i made them very small and let them in german

nope, I can understand and speak some German (with difficulties)

"Was ist ein Philosoph? Ein Mensch, der dem Gesetz die Natur, dem Brauch die Vernunft, sein Gewissen der öffentlichen Meinung und sein Urteil dem Irrtum gegenüberstellt."
"« Qu'est-ce qu'un philosophe ? C'est un homme qui oppose la nature à la loi, la raison à l'usage, sa conscience à l'opinion, et son jugement à l'erreur. » "
"What's a philosopher? A man who opposes nature against law, reason against use(custom), his consciousness against opinion, and its judgment against error."
but the quote is from Chamfort, [Œuvres, II, 14, Paris, 1812.]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Chamfort
and not from Cézanne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cezanne

"Phantasie ist wichtiger als Wissen, denn Wissen ist begrenzt."
"L'imagination est plus importante que la connaissance, car la conaissance est limitée"
"Imagination (fantasy) is more important than knowledge, because knowledge is limited"
Albert Einstein, 14.03.1879 - 18.04.1955, deutscher Physiker und Nobelpreisträger

I love Einstein as a physicist and as a philosopher and in particular "Comment je vois le monde" (Mein Weltbild ; The World As I See It)
which I offered to friends half a hundred times and never leaves my desk, and the four 1905 articles, each of one was worth a Nobel prize. They are the among the best writings I know that illustrate scientific analysis along with Ernst Mach's "The Science of Mechanics", and Lancelot Hodgben's Mathematics for the Million (1936) and Science for the Citizen (1938) And Henri Poincaré's works

Nard

I translated Phantasie (Fantasie) by Imagination more than fantasy, (Fantaisie in french) because I thinkt it is closer to Einstein'mind. He insits alot in his writings about role imagination in building a theory, which contrasts a lot with R.P. Feynman pragmatism and objectivism, or Niels Bohr's intellectual dishonesty. Einstein was sometimes a fantasist too and had the sense of humor:

Reply to the Women of America:

An American Women's League felt called upon to protest against Einstein's visit to their country. They received the following answer.

Albert Einstein wrote:
Never yet have I experienced from the fair sex such energetic rejection of all advances; or, if I have, never from so many at once.

But are they not quite right, these watchful citizenesses? Why should one open one's doors to a person who devours hard-boiled capitalists with as much appetite and gusto as the Cretan Minotaur in days gone by devoured luscious Greek maidens, and on top of that is low-down enough to reject every sort of war, except the unavoidable war with one's own wife? Therefore give heed to your clever and patriotic women-folk and remember that the Capitol of mighty Rome was once saved by the cackling of its faithful geese.

Nard wrote:"What's a philosopher? A man who opposes nature against law, reason against use(custom), his consciousness against opinion, and its judgment against error."
but the quote is from Chamfort, [Œuvres, II, 14, Paris, 1812.]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Chamfort
and not from Cézanne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cezanne

Next time i have to verify the source - sure you are right (i realy was amazed about sth the fact i never heard about Cézanne as an philosopher, if he said this )
Very thanks for your translation - i will change my signature with you allowance to this

Yes, Einstein (so i think) was an realy genius and philosopher. The philosophy mostly has the reputation as an antiquated history with a sense not realy compatible with "normal" sience. But i think this is wrong. The first philosopher in the ancient world were mostly the best scientist - why this disappered?

I realy like aphorism - to make a big sense it small you have to understan it realy

But i think for others we maybe spam the topic with that discussion - better pm's?

Please keep German in your signature along with translation
we need to improve our Culture

I can write only the english parts cause: "The maximum number of allowed characters is 400."

ZdlN wrote:But i think for others we maybe spam the topic with that discussion - better pm's?

thinking and discussing about Philosophy is anyway a nice way to waste time when server is down! Topic has it's place here

I think you think so, i know i think so, but what is with the others ?

ZdlN wrote:I can write only the english parts cause: "The maximum number of allowed characters is 400."

You can get around that if you use [url] tags and have no spaces due to a bug in the validator regex. Just saying.

Realy thanks o11c - nice bug
But i'm not able to do it without laughing about the result and so let steam away the philosophie of the words itselfe
English only have to be ok for the culture here

Or maybe - Nard can post this in french in his signature and we find someone to post in english, so i can do in german ...
... no, it's to silly

I translate various things (among them Wikipedia)

À celle qui n'est plus
Dans ce moment épouvantable,
Où des sens fatigués, des organes rompus,
La mort avec fureur déchire les tissus,
Lorsqu'en cet assaut redoutable
L'âme, par un dernier effort,
Lutte contre ses maux et dispute à la mort
Du corps qu'elle animait le débris périssable ;
Dans ces moments affreux où l'homme est sans appui,
Où l'amant fuit l'amante, où l'ami fuit l'ami,
Moi seul, en frémissant, j'ai forcé mon courage
À supporter pour toi cette effrayante image.
De tes derniers combats j'ai ressenti l'horreur ;
Le sanglot lamentable a passé dans mon cœur ;
Tes yeux fixes, muets, où la mort était peinte,
D'un sentiment plus doux semblaient porter l'empreinte ;
Ces yeux que j'avais vus par l'amour animés,
Ces yeux que j'adorais, ces yeux que j'ai fermés !
Œuvres complètes de Chamfort, Paris Chez Maradan, 1812, tome II, p. 406

To Her who is no more

In this dreadful moment,
When of tired senses and broken organs,
Death with fury tears the tissues,
When in this formidable assault
Soul, in a last effort,
Struggles against its troubles and fights with Death
for the perishable fragment of the body she livened;
In these hideous moments when man has no support,
When lover flees the mistress, when the friend flees the friend,
I alone, shivering, forced my courage
To bear for you this terrible image.
Of your last fights I felt the horror;
The pitiful sob passed through my heart;
Your fixed, dumb eyes, where the death was painted,
Of a softer feeling seemed to wear the print;
These eyes which I had seen by Love livened up,
These eyes which I adored, these eyes which I closed!

La mort est un manque de savoir-vivre...

Death is a lack of savoir-vivre.....



From my dear husband M

The more you advance slowly, the less you advance faster...Ouf!


From my dear husband M

I work on some development when the servers down, if im not watching movies or playing another game.

Nard wrote:I translate various things (among them Wikipedia)

You can translate very good these aphorism, poems and so on

But i think you last poem is a little bit to dark nature for me. To explain - i come here to clear my mind from reality and the problems in this regard. - pls excuse