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Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

Posted: 17 Jul 2016, 10:17
by dragoon84
this could be a crazy idea :lol: how about replace the merge with a new game (a fresh start) and wait some time to shutdown the TMW. I mean with this is give time to players to create new chars, to level up that chars and adapt to this new reality :alt-6:

Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

Posted: 18 Jul 2016, 09:58
by TRGN
Everyone vote for migrate all possible stuff. I don't want to have my useful items replaced by a rare hat which I don't need.

Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

Posted: 18 Jul 2016, 11:20
by dragoon84
its impossible to migrate all data because it will screw the new game that will result from the merge :alt-4:

Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

Posted: 18 Jul 2016, 13:53
by gumi
It's actually possible but it's unwanted by the devs

Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

Posted: 18 Jul 2016, 14:23
by dragoon84
the devs are the one that controlling the merge so they better put the magic level 3 on that game or i will leave for good. :evil:

Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

Posted: 18 Jul 2016, 14:29
by omatt
dragoon84 wrote:the devs are the one that controlling the merge so they better put the magic level 3 on that game or i will leave for good. :evil:
And me I held my breath as I have no warlord legs...

I'm serious, I retain from now !

Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

Posted: 18 Jul 2016, 14:50
by TRGN
Pawneeboy wrote:I think the items that should be kept is the current quest items (IE Bandit quest, Cindy, LTQ, Illia etc), as for money maybe give all players a starting amount of money (all the same amount ofc), and let 1 character from every account keep its level and stats. (and to keep out players with multiple account check IP's)
I want to keep bot my TMW and Evol characters but the account names are different, so the accounts can't be merged

Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

Posted: 18 Jul 2016, 14:52
by TRGN
meko wrote:It's actually possible but it's unwanted by the devs
Do it anyway. As I said, I don't want to have my useful items replaced by a rare hat which I don't need.

Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

Posted: 18 Jul 2016, 14:53
by gumi
TRGN wrote:I want to keep bot my TMW and Evol characters but the account names are different, so the accounts can't be merged
They can and most certainly will be merged. An admin will have to handle name conflicts on a case by case basis and contact the relevant parties to find a suitable solution. If both accounts are yourself then I guess you can just choose to rename one of them

Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

Posted: 18 Jul 2016, 14:55
by TRGN
meko wrote:
TRGN wrote:I want to keep bot my TMW and Evol characters but the account names are different, so the accounts can't be merged
They can and most certainly will be merged. An admin will have to handle name conflicts on a case by case basis and contact the relevant parties to find a suitable solution. If both accounts are yourself then I guess you can just choose to rename one of them
I just said that the account names are different. Also, the character names are different, as well.

Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

Posted: 18 Jul 2016, 14:56
by wushin
First, when has TMW or Evol ever 100% listened to the community.

What I'm taking away from this poll is TMW's players are willing to make some sacrifice depending on the needs of the project which is good. THUS, I'd expect the project to return the same amount of sacrifice for the players.

The TMW data Merge and Economy is only 1/2 of the problem. Neither Evol nor TMW has any means of maintaining balance over time. Since Evol/TMW are Open Source MMOs they can continue forever. Since we've no means of the game world resetting itself there is nothing to prevent continuous linear gain. (i.e. someone who plays every day for 5-10 years will crush the newb economically) Therefore, A Open Source MMO without Game Entropy will in fact suffer Entropy in the project.

Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

Posted: 18 Jul 2016, 15:00
by TRGN
Could it be done so that ònly new character's items are removed? They haven't got much items, anyway.

Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

Posted: 18 Jul 2016, 15:01
by gumi
TRGN wrote:Could it be done so that ònly new character's items are removed? They haven't got much items, anyway.
What the hell? how would THAT be fair? we're trying to re-balance the economy, not make the rich even richer

Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

Posted: 18 Jul 2016, 15:05
by TRGN
I DO NOT ACCEPT MY ITEMS BEING DELETED BY OTHERS WITHOUT ME MAKING THE DESCISION. Got it?

Re: [DIS] TMW data merge & the economy

Posted: 18 Jul 2016, 15:06
by gumi
TRGN wrote:I DO NOT ACCEPT MY ITEMS BEING DELETED BY OTHERS WITHOUT ME MAKING THE DESCISION. Got it?
Then stop playing and make your own game. Then you will be your own boss