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Booth wrote:We have no respect for the new GM's so why would we actually try to follow what they say they abuse thier power, Platyna never did this.

Indeed.. Platyna would've ban without warning or posting... That was her area. If you aren't sure ask players who lived under her area before posting about her..

Booth and Don and I have all lived under Plat's rule...and she was the best one ever! You arent the only one who has been around for more than a few months Doors

We didnt have these issues back then...we didnt have players mocking the GMs...why? Because the two of you have turned the red cap into a disgrace...GMs are something to laugh at now...to mock and to ignore if we can help it.

1. No calling other players "Gross Pigs"
2. No bots (and by botting I mean ANY AFK activity in game).
3. No calling GM's "Gross Pigs"
4. You must do everything a GM says.

There, lift the bans and everything should be swell.

Edit: Fixed.

We need less GMs with egos...

We need people who can wear the cap and not let it inflate their little self esteems...

We need GMs who dont rule with an iron ban stick...and who use it as the first defense

We need GMs who are understanding of the player and their concerns...

We need GMs who are willing to actually do their job and not send whispers to ban people they dont like

We need GMs who dont use past events to influence their decisons now

We need GMs who are partial and fair...

WE DO NOT NEED DICTATORS

Dy

this was cut and pasted from the GM log

[2009-08-15 02:22:22] 009-1.gat(48,37) Delasia : @kick Dimond
[2009-08-15 02:25:31] 009-1.gat(49,30) Delasia : @kick lamb
[2009-08-15 02:26:28] 008-1.gat(65,46) Delasia : @invisible
[2009-08-15 02:46:41] 009-1.gat(59,48) doorsman : @warp 009-1
[2009-08-15 02:48:59] 009-1.gat(53,34) doorsman : @ban 1d Dimond
[2009-08-15 02:49:08] 009-1.gat(53,34) doorsman : @ban 1d Dyna
[2009-08-15 02:49:50] 009-1.gat(53,34) doorsman : @ban 1d (~_~#)
[2009-08-15 02:50:03] 009-1.gat(44,32) Delasia : @kick lamb
[2009-08-15 02:51:56] 008-1.gat(78,45) Delasia : @visible
[2009-08-15 03:06:20] 018-1.gat(77,82) Delasia : @recall wayne
[2009-08-15 03:25:21] 018-1.gat(24,97) Delasia : @warp 018-1 24 97
[2009-08-15 03:25:28] 018-1.gat(24,97) Delasia : @recall wayne
[2009-08-15 03:58:17] 018-1.gat(26,97) Delasia : @recall gods wiseman

I see lamb and Dimond being kicked

I was not kicked nor was Dyna why were we banned?


still waiting for a reply. As for GM "abuse" if someone can not come forward and give a complaint about whether a GM is doing a good job or not with out the fear of being banned for it then the system does not work.

We're getting a third party log of what was said in Hurnscald during all of this.

As for complaints against GMs: you are free to do it. I've never stopped you. But what about their side?

jaxad0127 wrote:We're getting a third party log of what was said in Hurnscald during all of this.

As for complaints against GMs: you are free to do it. I've never stopped you. But what about their side?

they are allowed to intimated and threaten people who don't like how they are doing their job? If they don't like people complaining then GM is not the job for them. If they are not emotionally well suited for the job then perhaps its time to find someone who is.

Jax...their side...what about it?

They are dishing the abuse.

I logged back in...and guess what the first thing out of Dels mouth was? That I wasnt wanted there anymore...and that 'everyone who cared about me was gone', that the time of Wombatism was over...thats YOUR GM saying that to a player.

Then she called me Dirt...nice huh?

Sorry...the abuse against us is tiring...we are tired of being put under the threat of ban for voicing our opinions.

These two are horrid...there are so many complaints because there is good reason to give them. Think about that

We are already supposed to accept their side blindly. Now even a sceenshot isn't necessary. Just a copy paste from the log?

Jax, I mean no offense to you, but I really think you don't play this game enough. You wouldn't even be asking that question if you were only a player. Did you look at the GM logs? When did they look like that? Never!

*sigh*

Does that mean the devs approve of the dictatorship that is currently taking place in TMW? If that is so, please make a rule about it.

Dyna wrote:They are dishing the abuse.

I logged back in...and guess what the first thing out of Dels mouth was? That I wasnt wanted there anymore...and that 'everyone who cared about me was gone', that the time of Wombatism was over...thats YOUR GM saying that to a player.

Then she called me Dirt...nice huh?

Any evidence of that?

doorsman wrote:Those 3 players got banned for mocking and not do what a gm asked. The bans are for 24 hours.

Erm, and since "mocking" and not doing what GM asked is bannable offence?

It seems quite crazy to ban old and respected members of the community, including one who was making content for the game...

Regards.

No Jax I dont have a screenie of her abusing me because I never thought I would have to take one!

Tell you what...from now on I will screenie anything she ever says around me...because the word of player means nothing unless we have a screenie and the GM log tells all for a GM...

doorsman wrote:

Booth wrote:We have no respect for the new GM's so why would we actually try to follow what they say they abuse thier power, Platyna never did this.

Indeed.. Platyna would've ban without warning or posting... That was her area. If you aren't sure ask players who lived under her area before posting about her..

This is obvious lie and you are actualy insulting me.

Regards,

I was present at the time she did that. Black Don was present when Delasia implied we were unwelcome. I talked to Katze about it yesterday. And I know other people were around at the time. meway was there.

I'm sure he remembers Delasia's "rain cleaning the dirt away" comment.

Never before have I needed to prove the truth here.

What would you consider proof, Jax? The screenies don't cut it. I can't log. We're not offered any way of gathering material evidence.

Dyna wrote:No Jax I dont have a screenie of her abusing me because I never thought I would have to take one!

Tell you what...from now on I will screenie anything she ever says around me...because the word of player means nothing unless we have a screenie and the GM log tells all for a GM...

You demand proof from GMs. Why not provide it yourself?

melkior wrote:I was present at the time she did that. Black Don was present when Delasia implied we were unwelcome. I talked to Katze about it yesterday. And I know other people were around at the time. meway was there.

I'm sure he remembers Delasia's "rain cleaning the dirt away" comment.

Never before have I needed to prove the truth here.

What would you consider proof, Jax? The screenies don't cut it. I can't log. We're not offered any way of gathering material evidence.

TMWServ will log all chat itself, providing a neutral record. We can add it for eAthena too.