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Re: Delasia controled two characters

Posted: 21 Sep 2009, 23:59
by Black Don
MasterKenobi wrote:I have moved players onto a stack on a few occasions.

If I have multiple afk players stacking I can't tell who is attacking and who is not. So I will move them and after confirming they are afk I will put them back.
I'm not suggesting this is what happened here, I am just responding to a question posed too me.

FYI, I was not present for this particular incident and I'm not privy to any additional information. As such, it would be inappropriate for me to weigh in on the particulars of this case. I'm just offering my opinions given what little information has been offered in this topic.

My only request is this: Please keep in mind, being a GM is not an easy task. The moment you come online you are bombarded with questions and requests. Sometimes it seems you are criticized no matter what you actions you take. Also, GM's do their jobs with absolutely no benefit to themselves. We are human, with real lives outside this game. We have good days and bad days just like anyone else. Sometimes it's necessary to just cut us a little slack. Again, I'm not saying this pertains here, just an FYI. :)

MK
All very good points. What if someone shows that they are not able to perform GM duties because of things in real life or because they are not emotionally equipped to do so? I'm not pointing at anyones character or personality but at their actions. If people can't be held accountable for what they do then when are they accountable for anything? Like I said as long as people keep doing what they do it won't be long before another thread like this shows up. When someone is showing signs of being unfit to do the job it should be the other GMs who step in and recommend that maybe someone should step down.

Re: Delasia controled two characters

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 00:42
by dayve
MasterKenobi wrote:IMO, Quit whining and go play the game!

So a GM moved two players out of the way......... so what! I do it all the time if I'm checking for bots. I'd rather disturb afk players than those actually playing the game.

MK
How do you know i or miklos was afk? Have you bothered to talk to either of us? We werent. Were play and wait for del to get to us on the bot check she started. Neither of us were asked anything, just moved. i did not go afk till after she moved me.

Del is trying to make this about me. I had no complaint with her until i was moved without reason. If she had not tried to protect me, would any of this come up?

Re: Delasia controled two characters

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 00:50
by The Scarlet Rhus
MK is not one of a kind. I know this'll sound stupid coming from me, but I know (it's my mind!) that I would make a fair and neutral GM. I wouldn't take the paths that hurt no one - there aren't any. I would take those which harm the least. And I would create a new character for the GM.
I've never personally had a problem with Delasia, so I'm not going to say "Get rid of her!" I have my own theory, which mostly consists of the fact that if you read enough "DELASIA SUCKS" threads you will start to subconsciously find a fault in everything she does. I am not going to give an opinion of whether or not what she did was right.

~please excuse me if I've made a contradictory thread earlier... I don't remember if I have or not *slaps forehead*
The Scarlet Rhus

Re: Delasia controled two characters

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 00:52
by Booth
Lmao, 6 of you can lie about this also, i respawned in Hurns after being respawned so please tell me how i was "revived" and she didnt tele me in there to taunt you guys, get your facts straight, just because you don't like me or her. You have stuff against me because I'm an archer? Get the eff over this, you guys are just trying to make Del seem like a bad GM, she is going through things at the moment, so frankly she doesn't need this, please grow up it's just a game.

Re: Delasia controled two characters

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 02:17
by Dimond
All the GMs suck except Platyna and me.
But it won't matter how much you will whine or complain 'cuz I don't think they will remove 'em
anytime soon. This has happened before and they did nothing about these lousy GMs.
The GMs may be really nice people and mean well but they suck as GMs. IMO
I think I could get along with 'em better if they weren't the o' mighty GMs! :P
Problem solved! These GMs will never change or be removed, and if so then we shall celebrate til dawn. That's that... nothing more to talk about.

-Dimond

Re: Delasia controled two characters

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 02:22
by baseballboy
Honestly i do not see why you all are always attacking the GMs obviously they have been given trust enough to be a GM in the first place! i am quite fond to all the GMs even if they all hate me they are hard, great workers to do their job and NOT complain a lick, and to be volunteering their own time at that! you should appriciate the GMs for what they do not destroy their reputation cause "you don't like them"

Re: Delasia controled two characters

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 02:28
by Amun
Well I was in the pit when she revived booth aka delete and as far as the revive goes he was the only one dying har har! Solution: give your archer 50 vit which seems like plenty to stay alive ;p Than no one will complain about Del reviving you :)

Re: Delasia controled two characters

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 02:46
by Black Don
baseballboy wrote:Honestly i do not see why you all are always attacking the GMs obviously they have been given trust enough to be a GM in the first place!
I'm glad the word trust was used cause that is what I think is in question. If trust is lost then what? I hope the GM stays cause it will make her feel more invincible and act out even more. It only took a month before before the old tricks of whispers to provoke people have started up again and made this post happen. It will only get worse and I will quote this post in my "I told you so" reply when it does.

Re: Delasia controled two characters

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 05:06
by Dyna
not gonna bother with this anymore...all I can say is +1 to Don...he is always right

Dy

Re: Delasia controled two characters

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 05:24
by Jumpy
What could i say...

+1 MK
+1 GMs
+1 BBB

Alliances and so on go their ways

i was not there

all i can say is i appreciate a lot the dedication and the way all GMs are acting

whatever they do, they all stay with respect, kindness, helping, explaning, and understanding positions.

there will always be people to criticise and so on, no matter.
there will always be errors, mistakes that GM will do, no matter.

I want to point out that in the last 2 months the community has changed

changed because of group leaders
changed because of persons creating events
changed because of open conversations between devs and the all components in tmw
changed because o GMs openmind and hard task work experimenting new ways to deal with all issues.

ideas are growing

so i say go for it all of you, them, us. this is the right track

Regards

Re: Delasia controled two characters

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 05:44
by Booth
Jumpy wrote:changed because of persons creating events
:D

Re: Delasia controled two characters

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 05:49
by Crush
Just wanted to let you know that we are treating this case seriously and that we have internal discussions about how such a case can be avoided in the future.

Impeaching a GM is an option we are considering, but this will be the last measure. Currently we are trying to formulize strickter GM guidelines so that it is clearer for game masters and players what is in the responsibility of a game master and what isn't.

Re: Delasia controled two characters

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 06:00
by Booth
"Booth created havok again...."(you are all thinking) lol. I'll be gone soon, you won't have to worry about her using her powers unlawfully against me anymore. She is a good GM, thus having friends are a no go. I'm guessing. Good luck with any new GM's you will have no friends. This isn't correct english, but whatever. I'm sorry for playing your game and making everyones real life a total chaos cause she respawned me a few times.

Re: Delasia controled two characters

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 06:33
by Booth
Love you too random person i don't know....

Re: Delasia controled two characters

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 06:37
by Booth
I bet I do, but I guess I'll never know. :P