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Re: Next GM

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Doulos wrote: Any player you personally disagree with ... automatically deserves serious consideration.

Lol once again proof why you failed as a gm. But thank you for atleast realising that and resigning :) It is much appreciated. You leaving was a victory for the whole community. Let's just hope whoever the next GM is will be better thought out so we do not have a repeat mistake :)
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Re: Next GM

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It's quite funny how almost every GM picked has used thier power to thier advantage...
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Re: Next GM

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Amuk wrote: I don't have an issue with a current GM as the GM I did have an issue with resigned. Do some research before you make assumptions about my motives. Which you are obviously clueless too.
Lutzifer wrote: Not to get into a whole thing here about the true reason behind this post and your problem with a current GM but its kinda obvious
To Amuk:

My bad missed that he had resigned.

You admit what i was saying is right because this post has no objection to the personal conflict with that GM, just the fact that the GM in question resigned. And yes I was unaware that he had resigned until i saw it in another post. Some of us have lives and don't spend every waking moment on our computer or this forum flipping through spam.

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Some of us also don't spend every hour trying to get our friends promoted to GM or to get rid of the ones you disagree with, nor trying to change the fact that Platyna ultimately decides who is and isn't a GM.

Not that I totally agree with her as I don't agree with Wayne being unbanned. This goes against what Platyna has said in the past about her being fair and impartial. IMO rules are for all or none at all. I for one think it is the same favoritism that other GMs had done in the past were gotten rid of as well as many players quitting over. But with that being said it is her server and she can do what she wants. So all of these posts a certain group of people are making to ***** and complain about her are a waste of time and breath. The sooner everyone realizes this the sooner we can get rid of all this spam instead of a laughable power struggle in which people think they can change this simple fact. If people don't like the GM's here then leave or start your own server and hire your own GMs.

If opinions are of any matter here at all. I would go with two options the above having GM's that no one knows that don't play. Or another idea stated in another thread that GM's are always invisible. This would cut down on the kissing ass factor as it's hard to sit down next to a GM to kiss their ass in town if you can't see them. GM's should also have a separate character with a generic name like GM or GameMaster(not those specifically just an example) from the one that they play. And they should never disclose to any player what character they normally play if they do play. And the name should be the same for all GM's so no one can distinguish say Katze from Vink etc. Not only would it cut down on problems but I'm sure it would free up some of the endless whispers that GM's get from people trying to suck up (maybe not just an idea). Hopefully freeing up GM's to do rounds than sit and answer whisper after whisper from friends and such.

This is purely an idea and if I was The Borg Queen I would defend myself then lock this post and declare no change needed. Either way I have been reading these stupid posts and arguments and power struggles over something that is being offered for free for far too long. In all actuality I would say kiss my A** and go F*ck Yerselves if this was my server and the GM's I had hired if anyone posted this bullsh*t on it. Then I would say I pick who I want when I want this is spam and delete this thread.
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Re: Next GM

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Lutzifer wrote:If opinions are of any matter here at all. I would go with two options the above having GM's that no one knows that don't play. Or another idea stated in another thread that GM's are always invisible. This would cut down on the kissing ass factor as it's hard to sit down next to a GM to kiss their ass in town if you can't see them. GM's should also have a separate character with a generic name like GM or GameMaster(not those specifically just an example) from the one that they play. And they should never disclose to any player what character they normally play if they do play. And the name should be the same for all GM's so no one can distinguish say Katze from Vink etc. Not only would it cut down on problems but I'm sure it would free up some of the endless whispers that GM's get from people trying to suck up (maybe not just an idea). Hopefully freeing up GM's to do rounds than sit and answer whisper after whisper from friends and such.
I like this idea, I've thought about it before, just never posted on it. But, Platyna should look into this.
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Re: Next GM

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Lutzifer wrote:Some of us have lives and don't spend every waking moment on our computer or this forum flipping through spam.
I'd like to pretend I actually read your post but it's easy to guess that you are just trying to play mini Platyna and I would rather much hear stuff from the real Platyna than an imitator. No offence.

And if your life is so great why don't you get back to it instead of posting on "spam topics" as you called it.
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Re: Next GM

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Amuk wrote:
Lutzifer wrote:Some of us have lives and don't spend every waking moment on our computer or this forum flipping through spam.
I'd like to pretend I actually read your post but it's easy to guess that you are just trying to play mini Platyna and I would rather much hear stuff from the real Platyna than an imitator. No offence.

And if your life is so great why don't you get back to it instead of posting on "spam topics" as you called it.
Well it is obvious that you would rather troll or create endless flamewars here by this and your other posts. I would go the route of saying you didn't read it because you have a 2 sec attention span like the other trolls here and no intention of having a civil conversation but we all know you read it by the comments above. But like most trolls when confronted with something true they attack and try petty insults. I must get going back to my fabulous life maybe you can take over the other side of the flamewar you want to create and post back and forth to yourself. I suggest starting another account and name it one of your other names or a new one for the desired effect. Or if you are lucky maybe Platyna will grace you with her presence and waste her time once again listening to more trolls complain about her and her GM's and why their friends should be a GM :lol:

All in all it's just another brick in the wall...
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Re: Next GM

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Lutz wrote:If opinions are of any matter here at all. I would go with two options the above having GM's that no one knows that don't play. Or another idea stated in another thread that GM's are always invisible. This would cut down on the kissing ass factor as it's hard to sit down next to a GM to kiss their ass in town if you can't see them.
The idea of GMs being invisible was one possibility. However, I'd like to counter it by saying the possibility of being spied on is much too easy. GMs are there to help the game move along nicely. True: it's more difficult when certain players have it "in for you" and plan on making a GM's life miserable. Which leads me to quote the remainder of your paragraph:
Lutz wrote:GM's should also have a separate character with a generic name like GM or GameMaster(not those specifically just an example) from the one that they play. And they should never disclose to any player what character they normally play if they do play. And the name should be the same for all GMs so no one can distinguish say Katze from Vink etc. Not only would it cut down on problems but I'm sure it would free up some of the endless whispers that GM's get from people trying to suck up (maybe not just an idea). Hopefully freeing up GM's to do rounds than sit and answer whisper after whisper from friends and such.
If each new GM takes on such ambiguous names as GameMaster1 and GameMaster2, then the petty and jealous players would be left wondering. The GM's job would be judged on actions alone. Imagine that! :roll:
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Re: Next GM

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Lutzifer wrote:
Amuk wrote:
Lutzifer wrote:Some of us have lives and don't spend every waking moment on our computer or this forum flipping through spam.
I'd like to pretend I actually read your post but it's easy to guess that you are just trying to play mini Platyna and I would rather much hear stuff from the real Platyna than an imitator. No offence.

And if your life is so great why don't you get back to it instead of posting on "spam topics" as you called it.
Well it is obvious that you would rather troll or create endless flamewars here by this and your other posts. I would go the route of saying you didn't read it because you have a 2 sec attention span like the other trolls here and no intention of having a civil conversation but we all know you read it by the comments above. But like most trolls when confronted with something true they attack and try petty insults. I must get going back to my fabulous life maybe you can take over the other side of the flamewar you want to create and post back and forth to yourself. I suggest starting another account and name it one of your other names or a new one for the desired effect. Or if you are lucky maybe Platyna will grace you with her presence and waste her time once again listening to more trolls complain about her and her GM's and why their friends should be a GM :lol:

All in all it's just another brick in the wall...
You call me a Troll but read from the start. Who baited who into this little discussion of ours :) And regurgitating things that Platyna has said in the past and arguing her every point on her behalf with people who may disagree with her in no way improves your status here if that is what you think. Also although I may disagree with some of Platyna's methods atleast Platyna is Platyna and not some wannabe poser. Please go find your own identity. Until than you are not worth my time or any further replies :)
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Re: Next GM

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Lutzifer wrote:
Not that I totally agree with her as I don't agree with Wayne being unbanned. This goes against what Platyna has said in the past about her being fair and impartial. IMO rules are for all or none at all. I for one think it is the same favoritism that other GMs had done in the past were gotten rid of as well as many players quitting over. But with that being said it is her server and she can do what she wants. So all of these posts a certain group of people are making to Female dog, wolf, fox or otter and complain about her are a waste of time and breath. The sooner everyone realizes this the sooner we can get rid of all this spam instead of a laughable power struggle in which people think they can change this simple fact. If people don't like the GM's here then leave or start your own server and hire your own GMs.
You are forming such opinions and you leave no room for the fact that you may think that my decision was unfair because you did not understood it?
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Re: Next GM

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Such a shame I only realised what a great guy Doulos was AFTER his power was removed :(
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Dark Lord wrote:Such a shame I only realised what a great guy Doulos was AFTER his power was removed :(
It was removed upon his own request.

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Re: Next GM

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Avital wrote:What is that saying about the best elected officials being the ones who aren't looking for it?

I think maybe Killerz or Leela. They're always helpful and friendly, they've never broken the rules, they're posters on here so they know what goes on behind the scenes and they're always willing to help in game. Mind you, this isn't me throwing in some kind of nomination, just saying that that is the kind of person we'd want for GMs.
Nice Avital but no option. At last not for me.
But in my opinion you are right. I asked several people just out of curiosity, if they would like the job. Everyone who could actually really do that, said no. ;) Speaks for itself ;)

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Re: Next GM

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I love the idea of GM anonymity. I remember back when I played Everquest (a lifetime ago), that was sort of how it worked. GMs were GMs on a server that they didn't play on regularly, so no one knew them. As we're a one (main) server game, that bit wouldn't work. However not knowing who GM1 or GM2 are would mean people can't harass them and they could still play and enjoy the game as regular players instead of being on duty every moment they are online.
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Re: Next GM

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(Sorry for multiple posts in a row. Serves me right for not reading everything at once!)
Leela wrote:
Avital wrote:What is that saying about the best elected officials being the ones who aren't looking for it?

I think maybe Killerz or Leela. They're always helpful and friendly, they've never broken the rules, they're posters on here so they know what goes on behind the scenes and they're always willing to help in game. Mind you, this isn't me throwing in some kind of nomination, just saying that that is the kind of person we'd want for GMs.
Nice Avital but no option. At last not for me.
Leela, as I explained in game to Kill3rz, that isn't my nomination for you AT ALL! I'm just saying that you two are really good examples of what would make a GM. I'm not saying you should take the job and I'm not doing what Amun is and suggesting people, I'm simply comparing you to Wayne and the differences. :)
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Regarding anonymous GMs:

I think after one or two weeks the identity of the game masters will leak somehow. Any attempts to keep an information like this secret would be futile in this community.
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