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Re: Events / Event Coordinator?

Posted: 21 Jul 2012, 05:07
by Narus
I was thinking about the event cordinator role and want to point out a few things:

If the role will be @broadcasts for lets say Candor, rescue Cindy, special events, events hosted by a particular guild, etc we don't need a player as an event coordinator at all. As o11c said we can have NPCs for that, right now we usually announce those things but if we are not online or we don't have time the event will be announced by Parua. (I really think we need an npc that help players to make announces about getting help for Cindy :poke:)
Also if the event requires the use of commands like CRC did in one opportunity they surely can ask GM to help and do a great event as they for example already did. That way we can still have events with all the commands the event require and a GM that can help them to be fair :).
We as GMs don't do events for a single player or guild we try to make them for all players so have a GM helping you to make any event will help to avoid any type of abuse. Players know we can and will help they just need to ask us and tell us when and were they need us.

Another thing I'm concerned is the huge potential abuse that the event coordinator role can have, let me explain:
If the EC is elected by a poll like GMs we know any player can win a poll to become the coordinator if he tell lets say 50 people, that he will give them rewards once he is chosen, he can "pay" for the votes if the Event Coordinator can make any item, or even if he cannot he can give that reward to anyone he want.
Example:
-Admin give an eye patch for reward for X event.
-EC get the eye patch for a trivia event.
-EC whisper to Player 1 the correct answer, and ask the question.
-Player1 say the answer and got the eye patch.
I know is a silly example but we can imagine that. Some events can be harder to "fix" but we know that when people want to cheat any abuse is possible. And notice the EC did not use any command.

We need to really see if we need an EC as I said we can have more NPCs and they will be 100% fair :).

My opinion is that we don't need and EC. We have plenty of singular players, guilds and GMs to do a lot of events, all we need is people that really want to do them. And we have devs to make great NPCs that improve the announce system.

Re: Events / Event Coordinator?

Posted: 21 Jul 2012, 07:55
by Nard
I do agree with almost all Narus' remarks. This is precisely why an event coordinator must be a widely recognized player. Now about buying votes, it is also possible for a GM candidate to do that, along with other cheating possibilities :(. Of Course If the function of an EC was only to broadcast, it has quite no interest or a GM level 2 would be enough. EC as Tux9th was speaking about would be someone whose main task would be to organize or help to organize events that require some GM abilities such as those which were quoted upper in this thread or other in this forum. Another would be to plan and advertize them as Crush pointed out. I am not sure an E.C. is necessary, I am sure that if the conditions of nomination and role is well defined, as Frost pointed it out and such as developer and GM are, it could be interesting to give another chance to this role. Now it is also possible to give it to the actual GMs (It actually relies on their good will which is large :)).
On another side I would be interested in knowing, who had this role it the past and why this role was abandoned. I could find only a few things in this forum :?

Re: Events / Event Coordinator?

Posted: 21 Jul 2012, 08:49
by tux9th
Since you brought my opinion and my statements back in to the topic I think I have to comment on that =)
As this topic progressed so did my ideals for this job. I want to add a few things to list of tasks for the EC.

As I said in my first post I want events to be regular and announced. Therefore the EC has to coordinate all sorts of people. He has to make events himself, he also has to give timeslots for events to all the players around. Of course I don't want individual spontaneous events to stop but I would really enjoy something like a event calendar where events are posted in. So that GMs ECs and individual players can organize events and get the best support possible. Because if there is an event scheduled somewhere maybe more people would participate, donate or want to help with it. By doing that I hope that more people are going to look at the forums and more people are integrated into the community.
As well I would like to see the EC a lot in game listening to peoples suggestions and helping them realize whatever event they want to do.
At some point I'd also like to make some Wiki entries how to get the best support possible for your event. Where all the steps, which maybe aren't so obvious if you are new player, are explained with all the people listed to contact etc. All of these things will force people to interact with the “allmighty GHP” which isn't so unreachable if you reach out to them.
If all of this really works and is used it would be easy to just schedule a evening of candor and everybody will check it out and be there. With all these measures to coordinate and bring people together I hope we can pull a few new guys on board to help to bring new content into the game.
Of course will some part of the ECs work be to announce Cindy or Candor. But the EC could help develop new NPC events as well.
Currently I'm working on a new PvP Event. I'm supported by Jenalaya and some others from #tmw-dev. Like I said, the EC should be the connecting link between two "worlds".

Does this sound awesome? I think it does!
Will all of it work in this way? I have no idea but I like to dream about some things :) Because every dream and idealism has a certain value of truth in it and some things can be realized.

so far tuX

Re: Events / Event Coordinator?

Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 14:03
by argul
mistergrey wrote:I would like to ask for input from the other GMs, and from Administrators if possible, on whether an Event Coordinator could be used. If so, I believe that merits a discussion into whether they would have all they need with the available commands, and how to remedy the situation if the available commands will not suffice. I do believe that the item spawn command should not be allowed to most, but at the same time it is a bit ridiculous to expect an event coordinator to do well when they can only do events without prizes, or with the few they have time to gather themselves.

So, is Event Coordinator still considered a valid role, that we want somebody to fill? If yes, what is that person expected to do? Is it a plausible option to have someone with the correct access spawn prizes for certain events, to aid this person, if someone were to become an Event Coordinator?
What about an entry fee?
The event coordinator will charge the fee and removes these items and in return the event coordinator is allowed to either buy from other players or using the item spawn.