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Re: Grinding treadmill

Posted: 04 Mar 2010, 20:54
by Cotillion
Lord of the Flies wrote:
A variety type of different quest types would be a good start.
Quests are a grind.
Lord of the Flies wrote:Defensive quests would be fun. Protect location z for x amount of minutes
Sounds like more grinding.
Lord of the Flies wrote:Retrieval quests / treasure hunts. Find an artefact and bring it to the npc. Maybe the artefact is protected by a boss or strong monsters.
Sounds like more grinding. If you don't think BOSS fights are a grind, you have not fought a BOSS
Lord of the Flies wrote:Seek n Destroy quests - go assassinate the evil wizard (just an example) or bandits are intercepting the supply of [whatever] to hurns go stop them. Something like that.
Sounds like more grinding.
Lord of the Flies wrote:Have more spin off quests that follow a story that people can be captivated by and pulled into. Make the majority of exp gained by completing quests and not mindless grinding.
It sounds less like you have a problem with grinding than you do with a lack of quests. You are always free to join the DEV and assist with scripting up new and exciting quests.

Re: Grinding treadmill

Posted: 04 Mar 2010, 20:57
by Crush
What method of progressing in an MMO would you not define as grinding, Cotillion?

Re: Grinding treadmill

Posted: 04 Mar 2010, 21:00
by Cotillion
Crush wrote:What method of progressing in an MMO would you not define as grinding, Cotillion?
I don't know of a single MMO that doesn't consist mostly of grinding, and yet they remain extremely popular.

I have no problem with grinding.

I have a problem with people complaining and not stepping into assist with the work.

Re: Grinding treadmill

Posted: 04 Mar 2010, 21:22
by Cotillion
Lord of the Flies wrote:
Cotillion wrote:
Crush wrote:What method of progressing in an MMO would you not define as grinding, Cotillion?
I don't know of a single MMO that doesn't consist mostly of grinding, and yet they remain extremely popular.

I have no problem with grinding.

I have a problem with people complaining and not stepping into assist with the work.
There is a difference between complaining and suggesting obviously you have a problem distinguishing between the two.

If I had a problem with grinding I wouldn't play this game. Crush stated he didn't want the game to come across as a grinding treadmill I offered my suggestions on what I thought could help achieve this. Get it? or is that still too much for you to comprehend?

See I can be an arrogant ******* too :)

Next time i will wait 10 min for the trolls to jump on and the thread has 20 "yeah we need more quests" before I post my reply.

Re: Grinding treadmill

Posted: 04 Mar 2010, 21:33
by Rotonen
I'm actually going to do my own HC-grinding oriented gameplay proof of concept server I hope some of the fans of Korean MMO grinders will find fun. I've had the server sided data done for a while now, but I honestly cannot be arsed to tweak the client sided data. If someone would be willing to help me with the chore of a lot of repetitive and boring XML work, I could get this thing going finally.

If anyone is interested, the PMs on the forums should work. Let's not derail a derail originated fork.