[GIT] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

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Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

Post by Crush » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:24 pm

I think the wing size is fine as it is.

Remember, in fantasy the rule of cool is always more important than realism. There is simply no reason to make a graphic look less cool just because it is "unrealistic" or breaks some "laws of physics".
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Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

Post by enchilado » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:28 pm

EDIT: Crush posted. Indeed, if they look cool then realism doesn't matter. This monster probably needs some work before it's cool enough to get away with that though - but it's certainly on its way.
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Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

Post by arikel » Mon May 24, 2010 3:21 pm

Here's the current spriteset, with a death frame. I kept some space in case i'd come up with a nice attack animation. As Fother suggested, i'll work on fixing the wings perspective and try to separate the wings from the body to turn them into an accessory spriteset.

Edit : i removed the empty frames, if this was the problem...
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Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

Post by Jaxad0127 » Mon May 24, 2010 4:55 pm

Why so wide?
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Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

Post by zick » Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:06 am

My opinion, not that it was asked for or anything, but on the facing front and rear frames the tail section looks kinda unnatural just being so straight and stiff. What about a little "wiggle" action there?
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Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

Post by arikel » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:46 am

Actually i think i'll remake this sprite from scratch, it might be faster than trying to fix the perspective on that one. I don't like how the tail ends in front and back view either, i'll try to add some "wiggle" effect to them on the new version.
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Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

Post by arikel » Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:56 am

I started a little larva variation :
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As for the previous, the coloration system has to be used, examples :
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Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

Post by Kage » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:03 pm

This gives me a idea... we could give the larva a chance to summon the adult version on death.
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Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

Post by Senretsu » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:17 pm

Looks great! Wish I had more experience with non-humanoid sprites
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Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

Post by meway » Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:36 pm

Bringing this topic back to life because it has so much potential. On the flying sprite it needs a shadow to make it even clearer that it is in the air. Shading as len pointed out is an issue. If this is more snake like I suggest following his suggestions. Wings also need work. I do suggest increasing wing size maybe by a little and give that detail that crush suggested. Take note of the cell like shapes in the wings. The larva would need work on shading this way as well. It's a rounded object. don't be afraid to add those extra pixels around the light source (some people might be concerned that its pillow shading but round being its case, I don't think so just don't over do it.) Kage's thought on bringing the flying sprite from the larva sounds fun I would like to see this in the game. Allot of potential is here.
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Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

Post by pateame » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:44 am

I hope Arikel come back and finish this monster... Spritesheet is currently developed enough as to test it with .XML and dyable examples proposed,
but I think graphic details still need some work to [FND] (as wings, death/attack frames, floor shadows, x/y_offsets, etc).
- Here's the spritesheet+XML files ready for testing if anyone want to finish this monster,
Also I tryed to ilustrate how dyable system works with pure color channels, just to have more examples about this feature:
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Larva Spritesheet (45x45):
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<monster id="xxx" name="Grass Larva" targetCursor="small">
        <sprite>monsters/monster-larva.xml|#136D13,438917,83A51B,C0C01F,FFDB24</sprite>
   </monster>
<monster id="xxx" name="Desert Larva" targetCursor="small">
        <sprite>monsters/monster-larva.xml|#776046,997B5B,BB966F,DDB383,FFCF98</sprite>
   </monster>
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Wyvern Spritesheet (65x75):
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<monster id="xxx" name="Wyvern" targetCursor="small">
        <sprite>monsters/monster-wyvern.xml|#773E0E,995013,BB6117,DD731C,FF8522;#DEBFBF,BBA2A2</sprite>
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Re: [WIP] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

Post by Alige » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:31 pm

Vespa (Wyvern) & Larvespa (Larva) were added to the database. Thanks to arikel for the graphics, and thanks to pateame for the xml and co.
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Re: [GIT] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

Post by radiceta » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:55 pm

I like the Larva. It could on death spawn (agressive) maggots also. Its nice. And vywern concept is also good. If its wings could look more like bat wings, it would be great.
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Re: [GIT] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

Post by Alige » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:02 pm

A wyvern is a dragon-shaped monster. This isn't at all how a wyvern looks, more like a Vespa. If you want to make a wyvern, please start from scratch. That doesn't mean the flying mob wasn't good, well it is great in fact!

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyvern
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Re: [GIT] Wyvern (new monster : some flying snake)

Post by Crush » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:05 am

Ali-G wrote:A wyvern is a dragon-shaped monster. This isn't at all how a wyvern looks, more like a Vespa. If you want to make a wyvern, please start from scratch.
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