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Global announcement to average players as a money sink.
Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 06:56
by Calmwind
I was thinking that perhaps broadcast (global announcement) capabilities could be given to the average user in some form.. with a catch. Each broadcast costs x amount of money, not a huge amount but affordable, yet enough to be an effective economic sink. It could be implemented in a number of ways, either through an npc, which would be rather inconvenient but would limit the spam factor, or maybe a spell that takes x zeny to cast. Just a thought.
Re: Global announcement to average players as a money sink.
Posted: 24 Dec 2010, 02:15
by enchilado
As global announcements are only doable by GMs, you can trust them. If you see a global announcement warning of a server restart, you know there's going to be one - it wouldn't be the case if any player of the street could do it for a bit of money.
So no, I don't think so.
Re: Global announcement to average players as a money sink.
Posted: 24 Dec 2010, 04:27
by Kage
poison_ivy wrote:As global announcements are only doable by GMs, you can trust them. If you see a global announcement warning of a server restart, you know there's going to be one - it wouldn't be the case if any player of the street could do it for a bit of money.
So no, I don't think so.
This can be fixed by perpending the announcement with a disclaimer, and banning of people who abuse it.
Re: Global announcement to average players as a money sink.
Posted: 26 Dec 2010, 22:54
by ChefChelios
Kage wrote:banning of people who abuse it.
like yourself?
sometimes you use global announcements just for fun ingame...
or you "jump" over a fence and say " look what i can do" (i have seen it ingame myself)
you abuse your power sometimes too but you dont ban yourself xDDD
ok... back 2 topic... maybe a GM can read a announcement before it goes online and he/she decide what is wrong or not...
regards

Chef

Re: Global announcement to average players as a money sink.
Posted: 27 Dec 2010, 15:28
by Kage
ChefChelios wrote:Kage wrote:banning of people who abuse it.
like yourself?
sometimes you use global announcements just for fun ingame...
or you "jump" over a fence and say " look what i can do" (i have seen it ingame myself)
you abuse your power sometimes too but you dont ban yourself xDDD
By abuse I mainly mean insulting or swearing. Also, I can't ban myself. And if you have a issue with how/when I have used announcement abilities please find it in here:
http://server.themanaworld.org/gm/ and report it on the forums.
Re: Global announcement to average players as a money sink.
Posted: 27 Dec 2010, 15:46
by Crush
Kage wrote:By abuse I mainly mean insulting or swearing.
Or worse: impersonating game masters or server administrators.
When we really want to do this we have to be really careful to make sure that player-announcements can not be mistaken for official ones.
Re: Global announcement to average players as a money sink.
Posted: 27 Dec 2010, 16:43
by Matt
A global "You suck!"

A dream comes true...
Re: Global announcement to average players as a money sink.
Posted: 27 Dec 2010, 22:35
by Calmwind
Well, globals for gm's appear in red, maybe we can make player broadcasts them appear in a different color.. or make the npc or spell clearly say this is not a GM announcement. In general its a good potential money sink.. and if done correctly to avoid abuse of it.. which shouldn't be so hard, it could provide a great and pretty reliable sink.
One example is, simple make it says [Broadcast from <playername>]: The message here.
which is far different from the way globals present in game.
By abuse I mainly mean insulting or swearing.
Well the same rules could apply to the player broadcast as they do to general chat, as i like to refer to the idea, except harsher penalties. And VERY stringent enforcement.
Re: Global announcement to average players as a money sink.
Posted: 27 Dec 2010, 23:40
by Crush
Calmwind wrote:[Broadcast from <playername>]: The message here.
Then people will create characters named something like "GM_Team", "ServerAdmin", "The Mana World Developers" or the like (we can not filter out any possible name which sounds official).
Re: Global announcement to average players as a money sink.
Posted: 28 Dec 2010, 01:02
by argul
what about a registering?
So everybody who would like to use that money sink , needs to be name-approved by a GM? or is that too much work for gms?
and it could be
[Player-broadcast from <playername>]: The message here.
Re: Global announcement to average players as a money sink.
Posted: 28 Dec 2010, 07:03
by Calmwind
Broadcast from <playername> should be a clue, gm's would say Global announcement.
I also suggest it have a level restriction of 50 or 60 to discourage the newbies create gm wanna be names.
Re: Global announcement to average players as a money sink.
Posted: 28 Dec 2010, 21:40
by Tiana
As a current member of the GM team - I have to say I don't like this idea. For most of the reasons already mentioned. The abuse potential is just too big and there are better ways of sinking money (more potion options for example as mentioned in another post). There really is just no good reason for players to be making global announcements, and the overall confusion that would result would make real globals ignored as fakes. One last consideration - many players are not fluent in English, and tend to be confused over globals as it is.
Thanks for thinking of possibilities though

Re: Global announcement to average players as a money sink.
Posted: 28 Dec 2010, 21:45
by Kage
Maybe a alternative, preset global messages.
One idea that I just had is a orb you could buy, then break ("use"), and it will make a global announcement saying your map name and location.
Removing the ability to say anything will certainly decrease possibly for abuse
Re: Global announcement to average players as a money sink.
Posted: 28 Dec 2010, 21:57
by Big Crunch
Kage wrote:Maybe a alternative, preset global messages.
One idea that I just had is a orb you could buy, then break ("use"), and it will make a global announcement saying your map name and location.
Removing the ability to say anything will certainly decrease possibly for abuse
Use in conjunction with candor raids 'player x is hosting a Raid on Candor! Battle begins in X minutes!' or something like that
Re: Global announcement to average players as a money sink.
Posted: 28 Dec 2010, 22:32
by Kage
Big Crunch wrote:Kage wrote:Maybe a alternative, preset global messages.
One idea that I just had is a orb you could buy, then break ("use"), and it will make a global announcement saying your map name and location.
Removing the ability to say anything will certainly decrease possibly for abuse
Use in conjunction with candor raids 'player x is hosting a Raid on Candor! Battle begins in X minutes!' or something like that
Clearly you failed high school algebra if you don't see why that is stupid.