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[DIS] ManaMarket Slots

Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 22:00
by DarkestLight
Big Crunch wrote:
DarkestLight wrote:
Kandiman wrote:DarkestLight - added
Thank you very much!
I would like to request a 2nt slot as well so that I could sell large amounts of coal in addition to 1 other item!

I know at the moment I have a low amount (none at all) items sold but that will change soon!
No i'm sorry. It is one line per person unless it becomes apparent that another line is necessary and the player requests one. At this time it is not.
Ok, but how many items do i need to sell to get a 2nt?

I don't mean disrespect, its just i already have a lot of coal there and more items i would like to sell.

Re: ManaMarket

Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 22:19
by Frost
DarkestLight wrote:Ok, but how many items do i need to sell to get a 2nt?

I don't mean disrespect, its just i already have a lot of coal there and more items i would like to sell.
For what it's worth, I have more things to sell than slots. I just watch what else is selling, and adapt my items.
For example, some idiot just listed coal for cheaper than mine. ;)
I'll probably go on later and replace my coal listing with something else, since it's not going to sell right now anyway.

Realize that other people are selling out multiple times a day. If your items aren't selling quickly enough, either rotate your stock or lower your prices.

Re: ManaMarket

Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 22:27
by Big Crunch
Its not number of items, strictly, its based on volume.

Re: ManaMarket

Posted: 06 Sep 2011, 22:46
by DarkestLight
Frost wrote:
DarkestLight wrote:Ok, but how many items do i need to sell to get a 2nt?

I don't mean disrespect, its just i already have a lot of coal there and more items i would like to sell.
For what it's worth, I have more things to sell than slots. I just watch what else is selling, and adapt my items.
For example, some idiot just listed coal for cheaper than mine. ;)
I'll probably go on later and replace my coal listing with something else, since it's not going to sell right now anyway.

Realize that other people are selling out multiple times a day. If your items aren't selling quickly enough, either rotate your stock or lower your prices.
Haha... sorry i think that was me

But its not that my items aren't selling, in fact I've sold 30 items today... I just need more room... I have already outgrown the 1 item slot i have and have only been selling things for one day.

I currently have 70 coal listed but have over 200 more i could add XD
I just happen to be saving a little coal at the moment, but will add it if my stock of coal runs out.

Re: ManaMarket

Posted: 07 Sep 2011, 05:26
by Milla
Thanks !
ManaMarket is a good seller AND I cant hug it when I am sad<3

Re: ManaMarket

Posted: 07 Sep 2011, 06:57
by DarkestLight
yaypunkrock wrote:
DarkestLight wrote: Haha... sorry i think that was me

But its not that my items aren't selling, in fact I've sold 30 items today... I just need more room... I have already outgrown the 1 item slot i have and have only been selling things for one day.

I currently have 70 coal listed but have over 200 more i could add XD
I just happen to be saving a little coal at the moment, but will add it if my stock of coal runs out.
If you want to add more of the same stackable item (i.e. Coal), use the !getback command to return your items, and then add the new quantity. Adding the same stackable item in multiple slots is a waste of the lines (causing needless spam on the list).
This is not the issue, i have OTHER ITEMS (not coal) to sell.

Re: ManaMarket

Posted: 07 Sep 2011, 08:25
by Frost
Big Crunch wrote:No i'm sorry. It is one line per person unless it becomes apparent that another line is necessary and the player requests one. At this time it is not.
DarkestLight wrote:<repeated claim that I would sell more with another slot>
I've sold over 600 items of various kinds. Total value is about 2kk. Others have sold more. I'm using one slot right now.
There is a limit of 97 or 98 slots total on ManaMarket. The criterion to have additional slots reserved for you is high volume of sales, not high volume of posts in this thread.
Feel free to stop complaining and start selling.

Re: ManaMarket

Posted: 07 Sep 2011, 13:54
by Freeyorp101
BigCrunch wrote:Can I get this thread moderated?
Use the "Report this Post" button to mark posts you believe sufficiently sidetrack the thread.


---Freeyorp

Re: [DIS] ManaMarket Slots

Posted: 08 Sep 2011, 00:17
by Freeyorp101
Topic split. [Parent thread].


---Freeyorp

Re: [DIS] ManaMarket Slots

Posted: 08 Sep 2011, 04:47
by Big Crunch
Last thing i'll mention. ManaMarket is, at the basic level, a player. He only has 100 total slots. So please try to understand that we cannot give people more than 1 slot unless it is absolutely necessary.

BC

Re: [DIS] ManaMarket Slots

Posted: 08 Sep 2011, 07:10
by o11c
Is it not set up to use storage (300 more slots)?

TODO: remove the hard-coded limits for inventory and storage items, so scripts can give without worrying and e.g. bots like this can be granted extra "standard" space.

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Also I notice it does not have the $ indicatating the use of Manaplus's advert protocol (a periodic invisible emote, with at least the 3 bits 0xC1 all set).

The packet to write is just 3 bytes: {uint16_t CMSG_PLAYER_EMOTE; uint8_t emote;} and CMSG_PLAYER_EMOTE is 0x00BF, so the bytes to write are: { 0xBF, 0x00, 0xC1 } (/me grumbles about little endian protocols again)

Re: [DIS] ManaMarket Slots

Posted: 08 Sep 2011, 09:25
by yaypunkrock
o11c wrote:Is it not set up to use storage (300 more slots)?

TODO: remove the hard-coded limits for inventory and storage items, so scripts can give without worrying and e.g. bots like this can be granted extra "standard" space.

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Also I notice it does not have the $ indicatating the use of Manaplus's advert protocol (a periodic invisible emote, with at least the 3 bits 0xC1 all set).

The packet to write is just 3 bytes: {uint16_t CMSG_PLAYER_EMOTE; uint8_t emote;} and CMSG_PLAYER_EMOTE is 0x00BF, so the bytes to write are: { 0xBF, 0x00, 0xC1 } (/me grumbles about little endian protocols again)
We've avoided including support for storage, to reduce complexity. This may be added in the future (when slots and weight start to become a real problem and if no server side solution is available). The advert protocol is currently in use, though the emote is sent in 5 minute intervals (this could be reduced to 1-2 minutes if people are missing it).

Re: [DIS] ManaMarket Slots

Posted: 08 Sep 2011, 21:10
by DarkestLight
Frost wrote:
Big Crunch wrote:No i'm sorry. It is one line per person unless it becomes apparent that another line is necessary and the player requests one. At this time it is not.
DarkestLight wrote:<repeated claim that I would sell more with another slot>
I've sold over 600 items of various kinds. Total value is about 2kk. Others have sold more. I'm using one slot right now.
There is a limit of 97 or 98 slots total on ManaMarket. The criterion to have additional slots reserved for you is high volume of sales, not high volume of posts in this thread.
Feel free to stop complaining and start selling.
Time and volume per day are 100% different

In 2 days I've sold 100 items, unless you've been using ManaMarket for less then 12 days I've got you beat here (not intended as a jab, just making a friendly point)
Big Crunch wrote:Last thing i'll mention. ManaMarket is, at the basic level, a player. He only has 100 total slots. So please try to understand that we cannot give people more than 1 slot unless it is absolutely necessary.

BC
Thank you for this information, but could i simply have the requirements for a second slot? If I know this much I will meet them as soon as humanly possible.

Re: [DIS] ManaMarket Slots

Posted: 09 Sep 2011, 04:50
by Crush
Would it be possible to run multiple instances of the market bot to extend the capacity?

Re: [DIS] ManaMarket Slots

Posted: 09 Sep 2011, 18:24
by yaypunkrock
Crush wrote:Would it be possible to run multiple instances of the market bot to extend the capacity?
Any other instances would also require the correct server permissions; to prevent chat spam bans. Though if the idea were supported I suppose a few characters with each selling a certain type of item might work (e.g. one for armor/hats etc).

Currently the number of inventory slots is not a problem (at the moment 41 inventory slots are in use with 2 used for clothing, and 44 sales lines), the decision to limit the number of "slots" a user can add item's too, was made to give enough room to hopefully allow every new user who asked the ability to add items over the lifetime of the bot.

The only real problem that might occur soon, is he may become overweight (with 99 STR he can only carry 50.7kg).