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Mallad's eye mini game and documentation
Posted: 16 Sep 2012, 03:09
by Doofus
I tried to complete the mallad's eye quest (have a warrior build but went for it for the sake of completeness) but don't seem to get through and the documentation seems a bit thin for explaining all the requirements if not incorrect at times.
Firstly, on a minor note arrows are needed which isn't documentated.
Secondly, the option for walking diagonal is not given in game contrary to the wiki. I assume diagonal directions correspond to shooting stronger or weaker as well as the left/right.
Thirdly, for some cases the formulae don't quite match that of the wiki for the correct value - but it works as a good starting point.
Finaly, I always seem to hit the bullseye but am a hairs breadth off. Nothing in the wiki about this. Is there a minimum dexterity required? Mine's currently only 40 being a non archer build.
Will probably have to have a look at the source to figure out what is what but maybe someone knows the ins and outs already.
Thanks.
Re: Mallad's eye mini game and documentation
Posted: 16 Sep 2012, 09:11
by Jenalya
Doofus wrote:Finaly, I always seem to hit the bullseye but am a hairs breadth off. Nothing in the wiki about this. Is there a minimum dexterity required? Mine's currently only 40 being a non archer build.
Your chances are better the higher your dexterity and agility are:
https://github.com/themanaworld/tmwa-se ... n.txt#L432
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L_target_hit:
if( rand(500) > (2*readparam(bDex) + readparam(bAgi)))
goto L_target_nohit;
rand(500) gives a value within [0,499].
Re: Mallad's eye mini game and documentation
Posted: 16 Sep 2012, 11:37
by Doofus
Ok thanks, thought that might be the case. Is it possible for the wiki to be updated to be a bit more indepth?
Re: Mallad's eye mini game and documentation
Posted: 16 Sep 2012, 11:47
by Jenalya
Doofus wrote: Is it possible for the wiki to be updated to be a bit more indepth?
Feel free.
The wiki is a community effort, everyone is welcome to help there.
As a developer I don't write articles about the quests (though I'm sometimes asked to check them for correctness). I'd feel weird giving a walkthrough for quests I conceived to be a challenge for the players...
But if the NPC dialogue itself is misleading or confusing, I'm happy about specific feedback where this is the case and open to ideas of how it could be improved.
Re: Mallad's eye mini game and documentation
Posted: 16 Sep 2012, 16:14
by Try-zar
Although you wouldn't want to make a
Guide Dang It kind of quest. Some of the quests are pretty hard without using the Wiki guide. That quest to get the candle hat? I did it three times without the guide. Then I tried it the fourth time after writing down the tables on the Wiki and I finished it with only using 6 red powders. The point is having the NPC explain the relationship of the torches would have helped.
Re: Mallad's eye mini game and documentation
Posted: 16 Sep 2012, 19:45
by Nard
I will try to improve documentation according to your remarks. Now there are several ways to use the wiki.
As in every rpg you are supposed to find the solution of a quest
by yourself. The wiki includes a spoiler which is here to prevent players from being stuck. There is also a reference about the required items for those players who do not like tou use a paper and a pencil or who do it several times.
In this particular case you are asking to follow an archery course. It is quite normal that you should have a (good) bow and arrows in your inventory.
Developers try to make quests look somewhat as "reality". Skills and chance are elements of this "reality"
Anyway you are right, wiki should mention those details as it pretends to be exhaustive.
On the occasion, I'd like to remind to the readers that wiki (user part) is
your thing and requires
your help; Especially in translations at this moment
Nard
Re: Mallad's eye mini game and documentation
Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 16:15
by blackrazor
I have a thread on this forum, where I add what I feel might be corrections to the wiki. I am very shy about editing the wiki directly, so I maintain the thread instead. Also, my thread has the all caps *SPOILER* in the title, which is required (I believe) when requesting or providing detailed solutions to the in-game quests and secrets.
As such, I will provide the link to it, rather than listing the solution in your thread.
Mallard's Eye is
Item #9 in the list I give here:
http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopi ... 59#p126059
Re: Mallad's eye mini game and documentation
Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 21:52
by Nard
blackrazor wrote:I am very shy about editing the wiki directly, so I maintain the thread instead.
Forum is always a good solution but don't be shy Please! Wiki need good contributors
And starting with improving existing articles is the best way to begin to help and know the game better as well.