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I voted yes, Sango you will make a great GM

i voted yes for sango98 its a nice girl and she´s gone to a good gm

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mumen1 I'm a girl

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i voted Yes

even i dont know her very well, i think she'd do a good Job

Having a GM squad of all "policemen" is a bad idea. People with kind hearts and souls also can make great GM's as well as the "enforcers". Sango would make an excellent addition to your GM squad IMHO. She's got my vote.

LordDune wrote:Having a GM squad of all "policemen" is a bad idea. People with kind hearts and souls also can make great GM's as well as the "enforcers". Sango would make an excellent addition to your GM squad IMHO. She's got my vote.

I have 3 points regarding this comment.

1. All of us GM's (myself excluded) have kind hearts. My fellow GMs would give a friend the literal shirt off their back if they needed it. There has been no end to the kindness that they have shown new players, old players, random players or anyone at all, provided they dont feel taken advantage of.

2. All of us HAVE been taken advantage of. In one way or another, someone has asked, received and not been appreciative, or tried to take advantage of the friendship, simply because we are GM's. This includes people asking for special spawns, warps, revival, items, etc. We are old players. Newer players think that simply because we are old, we have 20 of every item. Well news flash, I aint got Chocolate Cupcake. I basically have the clothes and hats you see me wear because I've given the others away or i've not bothered to get them. Furthermore, those of us that do have those things have worked hard, for years, to get what we have.

3. I hate to tell you this, but policemen are exactly what we are. We see a rule get broken, we have to act. Period, the end. Its what you, the community has entrusted us with doing. There is no room for showing leniency, it will come back around to bite you in the ass. All of us GM's have stories where someone searches for hours among the GM logs just to find one instance where a player that gets punished can come back and say, "This person did the same thing and you punished me but not them". The only kindness we can show or give regarding rules that have been broken is to explain as clearly as possible what rule was broken and explain what action can be taken by the player to prevent said braking of the rule.

In summary, GM's have to take a hardline regarding the rules. We can be friends with anyone we choose, have a good time and play the game, or just sit in town chatting, but, in the end, we have to enforce the rules.

BC

Having a GM squad of all "policemen" is a bad idea. People with kind hearts and souls also can make great GM's as well as the "enforcers". Sango would make an excellent addition to your GM squad IMHO. She's got my vote.

I have 3 points regarding this comment.

1. All of us GM's (myself excluded) have kind hearts. My fellow GMs would give a friend the literal shirt off their back if they needed it. There has been no end to the kindness that they have shown new players, old players, random players or anyone at all, provided they dont feel taken advantage of.

Your point of view. Some of the GM's in games are not always so kind. Not going to specifically single out anyone in TMW, but that is a fact.

2. All of us HAVE been taken advantage of. In one way or another, someone has asked, received and not been appreciative, or tried to take advantage of the friendship, simply because we are GM's. This includes people asking for special spawns, warps, revival, items, etc. We are old players. Newer players think that simply because we are old, we have 20 of every item. Well news flash, I aint got ****. I basically have the clothes and hats you see me wear because I've given the others away or i've not bothered to get them. Furthermore, those of us that do have those things have worked hard, for years, to get what we have.

The same people trying to take advantage of you, the GM's, do the EXACT same thing to players.

3. I hate to tell you this, but policemen are exactly what we are. We see a rule get broken, we have to act. Period, the end. Its what you, the community has entrusted us with doing. There is no room for showing leniency, it will come back around to bite you in the ass. All of us GM's have stories where someone searches for hours among the GM logs just to find one instance where a player that gets punished can come back and say, "This person did the same thing and you punished me but not them". The only kindness we can show or give regarding rules that have been broken is to explain as clearly as possible what rule was broken and explain what action can be taken by the player to prevent said braking of the rule.

Untrue. GM's, or Game Managers, also function to perform special events, help with people's questions, reporting things to the devs, etc., etc. If you think you are nothing more than a policeman as a GM, I say you're quite wrong. I've personally seen you in action, and you are much, much, much more than a cop, BC. I respect you as a GM and a person, you do a fantastic job as a Game Manager. Same holds true for most of TMW GM's.

In summary, GM's have to take a hardline regarding the rules. We can be friends with anyone we choose, have a good time and play the game, or just sit in town chatting, but, in the end, we have to enforce the rules.

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Very true, but some GM's often times use their own interpretation of rules to suit their own mindset. I've also witnessed that in game as well. I feel someone like Sango will think long and hard before she bans someone or says a harsh word to players. Don't take my comments as a personal attack, this is exactly the type of attitude that GM's should not have.

1. Just because you havent seen it doesnt mean it hasnt happened. Narus, Tiana, mrgrey, and prsm were all super kind to me before I was a GM, and before prsm and mrgrey were GMs. Tiana has always been a GM since i've started playing, and Narus I met shortly before she became a GM.

2. That is exactly right. I've had people try to (and one in particular that doesnt play anymore, suceed) take advantage of me many times, both before and after I was a GM. However in things like trade scamming, (drop trades, not adding a zero, fake bluejean shorts), this is all part of the game. Some people choose to be assholes and there is nothing we as GM's can do. Things like phishing sites, account scamming and the like exist seperate from the game even though they may take place in the game. About this we can do something.

3. A Game Master's job is to uphold the rules of the game. We choose to do the other things. There are resources available to have your questions answered, report to devs and the like. That is not to say we dont feel it is part of the job, as I, personally feel it is part of my job to act as a middle man between the players and devs, if I can.

4. Regarding GM's interpreting rules, there will be some interpretation involved in judging if a statement is an insult or not, if someone is spamming or not, and a couple other issues. However, we have clearly laid out steps that are to be taken once the GM has made that decision. What the punishment should be is not a judgement call. In order to be a GM, Sango would have to be willing to make a judgement call on many things, take into account as much info as possible, and if she determines that a rule has been broken, she will follow the punishment guidelines, no questions asked.

One of the things that seems to bother alot of players is that GM's seem to dole out punishment according to mood. This is not the case. Many times a player has a history of behavior that plays into the punishment, so if Player A has been banned before for X infraction, Player B, who might not have the history would get a different punishment for the same infraction. Normal players dont see the history of behavior that has led to a punishment and might think it unfair or too harsh.



BC

This topic should be about sango, not whether the GM team has hearts or not..

And just to make it clear, its the GMs job to make things fair in the game and make sure the rules are followed. They are not obligated to make events. So even if sango98 does become a GM there might even come a time she has to ban one of her friends to keep the game fair. Which i believe she can do and is not considered "heartless".

regards,
Chicka

I was thinking exactly the same, I hate how people that are supposed to follow the Forum rules are the first one breaking them...

Thank you so much for votes and please no fighting on the page .

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I support Sango's nomination.

Travolta

Thank you for your vote Travolta

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I vote for Sango

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